Why? Because I fancied doing it. Give me some picks that you personally think are essential but avoiding the obvious - the rarer the better. I'm looking to populate 21-50 more than 1-20. EDIT: Here's the full list of fights mentioned so far in this thread in rough chronological order: Pre-20th Century - bareknuckle era: [ ] Bob Whitaker Vs The Venetian Gondalier (1733) [ ] Jack Slack Vs Monsieur Petit (1751) [ ] Hen Pearce Vs John Gully (1805?) [ ] Hen Pearce Vs Jem Belcher (1805) [ ] Tom Cribb Vs Tom Molyneaux (1810 and 1811) [ ] Tom Sayers Vs John C Heenan (1860) 20th Century: [ ] Gus Ruhlin v Peter Maher 1 (1900) [ ] Joe Jeanette v Sam McVey (1907-1915) [ ] Jack Johnson v Stanley Ketchel (1909) [ ] Jack Johnson v Jim Jeffries (1910) [ ] Jack Dempsey v Jess Willard (1919) [ ] Jack Demspey v Luis Firpo (1923) [ ] Jack Dempsey v Jack Sharkey (1927) [ ] Gene Tunney v Jack Dempsey (1927) [ ] James Braddock v Max Baer (1935) [ ] Joe Louis v Max Baer (1935) [ ] Max Schmeling v Joe Louis 1 (1936) [ ] Joe Louis vs James J Braddock (1937) [ ] Joe Louis v Max Schmeling 2 (1938) [ ] Joe Louis vs Tony Galento (1939) [ ] Joe Louis v Buddy Baer 1 (1941) [ ] Joe Louis v Billy Conn 1 (1941) [ ] Joe Louis v Buddy Baer 2 (1942) [ ] Joe Louis vs Jersey Joe Walcott I (1947) [ ] Joe Louis vs Jersey Joe Walcott II (1948) [ ] Ezzard Charles v Joe Louis (1950) [ ] Jersey Joe Walcott v Ezzard Charles 3 (1951) [ ] Rex Layne v Bob Satterfield (1951) [ ] Rocky Marciano v Rex Layne (1951) [ ] Rocky Marciano v Jersey Joe Walcott 1 (1952) [ ] Charley Norkus v Danny Nardico 1 (1954) [ ] Rocky Marciano v Ezzard Charles 1 (1954) [ ] Rocky Marciano v Ezzard Charles 2 (1955) [ ] Rocky Marciano v Archie Moore (1955) [ ] Ingemar Johansson v Floyd Patterson 1 (1959) [ ] Sonny Liston v Cleveland Williams 1 (1959) [ ] Floyd Patterson v Ingemar Johansson 2 (1960) [ ] Sonny Liston v Cleveland Williams 2 (1960) [ ] Floyd Patterson v Ingemar Johansson 3 (1961) [ ] Cassius Clay v Doug Jones (1963) [ ] Floyd Patterson v George Chuvalo (1965) [ ] Joe Frazier v Oscar Bonavena (1966) [ ] Joe Frazier v Eddie Machen (1966) [ ] Joe Frazier v George Chuvalo (1967) [ ] Floyd Patterson v Jerry Quarry 1 (1967) [ ] Floyd Patterson v Jerry Quarry 2 (1967) [ ] Jimmy Ellis v Floyd Patterson (1968) [ ] Leotis Martin v Thad Spencer (1968) [ ] Joe Frazier v Buster Mathis (1968) [ ] Joe Frazier v Manuel Ramos (1968) [ ] Joe Frazier v Jerry Quarry 1 (1969) [ ] Joe Frazier v Jimmy Ellis 1 (1970) [ ] Joe Frazier v Muhammad Ali 1 (1971) [ ] Ken Norton v Muhammad Ali 2 (1973) [ ] Joe Frazier v Jerry Quarry 2 (1974) [ ] Muhammad Ali v George Foreman (1974) [ ] Ron Lyle v Earnie Shavers (1975) [ ] Muhammad Ali v Joe Frazier 3 (1975) [ ] George Foreman v Ron Lyle (1976) [ ] Muhammad Ali v Ken Norton 3 (1976) [ ] Earnie Shavers v Roy Williams (1976) [ ] Leon Spinks v Scott LeDoux (1977) [ ] Muhammad Ali v Earnie Shavers (1977) [ ] Leon Spinks vs Muhammad Ali 1 (1978) [ ] Larry Holmes v Ken Norton (1978) [ ] Larry Holmes v Mike Weaver (1979) [ ] Larry Holmes v Earnie Shavers 2 (1979) [ ] Ken Norton v Scott LeDoux (1979) [ ] Mike Weaver v John Tate (1980) [ ] Mike Weaver v Gerrie Coetzee (1980) [ ] Leon Spinks vs Eddie Lopez (1980) [ ] Leon Spinks vs Bernardo Mercado (1980) [ ] Ken Norton v Randall Cobb (1980) [ ] Marty Monroe v Lynn Ball (1980) [ ] Larry Holmes v Renaldo Snipes (1981) [ ] Greg Page v George Chaplin (1981) [ ] Mike Weaver v Michael Dokes 2 (1982) [ ] Trevor Berbick v Renaldo Snipes (1982) [ ] Leon Spinks vs Jesse Burnett (1982) [ ] Larry Holmes v Gerry Cooney (1982) [ ] Greg Page v James Tillis (1982) [ ] Larry Holmes v Tim Witherspoon (1983) [ ] Gerrie Coetzee v Michael Dokes (1983) [ ] Greg Page v Gerrie Coetzee (1984) [ ] Pinklon Thomas v Mike Weaver (1985) [ ] Larry Holmes v Carl Williams (1985) [ ] Michael Spinks v Larry Holmes 1 (1985) [ ] Michael Spinks v Larry Holmes 2 (1986) [ ] Mike Tyson v James Tillis (1986) [ ] Mike Weaver v Carl Williams (1986) [ ] Buster Douglas v Greg Page (1986) [ ] Mark Wills v Greg Page 1 (1986) [ ] Greg Page v James Broad (1987) [ ] Evander Holyfield v Alex Stewart 1 (1988) [ ] Evander Holyfield v Michael Dokes (1989) [ ] James Douglas v Mike Tyson (1990) [ ] Ray Mercer v Bert Cooper (1990) [ ] Mark Wills v Greg Page 2 (1990) [ ] George Foreman v Gerry Cooney (1990) [ ] Pierre Coetzer v Johnny DuPloy (1990) [ ] Mike Tyson v Donovan Ruddock 1 (1991) [ ] Ray Mercer v Tommy Morrison (1991) [ ] Michael Moorer v Alex Stewart (1991) [ ] Evander Holyfield v George Foreman (1991) [ ] Michael Moorer v Bert Cooper (1992) [ ] Larry Holmes v Ray Mercer (1992) [ ] Tommy Morrison v Joe Hipp (1992) [ ] Riddick Bowe v Evander Holyfield 1 (1992) [ ] Tommy Morrison v Carl Williams (1993) [ ] Lennox Lewis v Frank Bruno (1993) [ ] Evander Holyfield v Riddick Bowe 2 (1993) [ ] George Foreman v Michael Moorer (1994) [ ] Larry Holmes v Jesse Ferguson (1994) [ ] Evander Holyfield v Ray Mercer (1995) [ ] Riddick Bowe v Evander Holyfield 3 (1995) [ ] Tommy Morrison v Donovan Ruddock (1995) [ ] David Tua v David Izon (1996) [ ] Michael Moorer v Frans Botha (1996) [ ] Andrew Golota v Dannel Nicholson (1996) [ ] Riddick Bowe v Andrew Golota 1 (1996) [ ] Riddick Bowe v Andrew Golota 2 (1996) [ ] Ray Mercer v Tim Witherspoon (1996) [ ] Lennox Lewis v Ray Mercer (1996) [ ] Ike Ibeabuchi v David Tua (1997) [ ] Lennox Lewis v Shannon Briggs (1998) [ ] Evander Holyfield v Michael Moorer 2 (1998) [ ] David Tua v Hashim Rahman 1 (1998) [ ] Alex Stewart v Ezra Sellers (1998) [ ] Andrew Golota v Corey Sanders (1998) [ ] Derek Jefferson v Maurice Harris (1999) [ ] Michael Grant v Andrew Golota (1999) [ ] Shannon Briggs v Frans Botha (1999) [ ] Oleg Maskaev v Hashim Rahman (1999) [ ] Lennox Lewis v Evander Holyfield 2 (1999) 21st Century: [ ] Clifford Etienne v Lamon Brewster (2000) [ ] Clifford Etienne v Lawrence Clay Bay (2000) [ ] Hashim Rahman v Corrie Sanders (2000) [ ] Evander Holyfield v Hashim Rahman (2002) [ ] James Toney v Evander Holyfield (2003) [ ] David Tua v Hashim Rahman 2 (2003) [ ] Lennox Lewis v Vitali Klitschko (2003) [ ] Andrew Golota v Chris Byrd (2004) [ ] Lamon Brewster vs Wladimir Klitschko 1 (2004) [ ] Monte Barrett v Owen Beck (2005) [ ] Lamon Brewster v Sergei Liakovich (2006) [ ] Samuel Peter v James Toney 1 (2006) [ ] Tyson Fury v John McDermott 1 (2009) [ ] Wladimir Klitschko v Samuel Peter (2010) [ ] Monte Barrett v David Tua 1 (2010) [ ] Monte Barrett v David Tua 2 (2011) [ ] Alexander Povetkin v Ruslan Chagaev (2011) [ ] Alexander Povetkin v Marco Huck (2012) [ ] Tyson Fury v Steve Cunningham (2013) [ ] Tony Thompson v David Price 2 (2013) [ ] Alexander Povetkin v Carlos Takam (2014) [ ] Deontay Wilder v Eric Molina (2015) [ ] Anthony Joshua v Dillian Whyte (2015) [ ] Anthony Joshua v Dillian Whyte (2016) [ ] Dillian Whyte vs Derek Chisora 1 (2016) [ ] Anthony Joshua v Wladmir Klitschko (2017) [ ] Dominic Breazeale v Izuagbe Ugonoh (2017) [ ] Deontay Wilder v Luis Ortiz 1 (2018) [ ] Tyson Fury v Deontay Wilder 1 (2018) [ ] Alexander Povetkin v David Price (2018) [ ] Anthony Joshua vs Alexander Povetkin (2018) [ ] Dillian Whyte vs Joseph Parker (2018) [ ] Dillian Whyte vs Derek Chisora 2 (2018) [ ] Alexander Povetkin v Michael Hunter (2019) [ ] Anthony Joshua vs Andy Ruiz 1 (2019) [ ] Deontay Wilder v Luis Ortiz 2 (2019) [ ] Tyson Fury v Otto Wallin (2019) [ ] Tyson Fury v Deontay Wilder 2 (2020) [ ] Alexander Povetkin v Dillian Whyte 1 (2020)
I think that this task is harder with heavyweights than any other weight. What I mean by that is fights like Lewis-Rahman II or Louis-Schmeling II seem reasonable inclusions - but they are terrible fights with overmatched opponents getting seriously hurt. There is absolutely no question of Hagler-Seales getting on any lists, I wouldn't have though, which is about equivalent. But there's just something special about destructive heavyweights. This is helped by the fact that the best heavyweight fights just aren't going to be as good as anything out of the Marquez-Pacquaio series. Some must include: Holmes-Norton Walcott-Marciano Dempsey-Firpo Ali-Frazier I Ali-Foreman (Again, no question of the equivalent getting onto a MW list, but there's just something fundamental about it) Ibeabuch-Tua Holyfiled-Bowe I Foreman-Lyle
This is compelling. I love anything that makes you think a bit. I'll jump in with a couple of fights here and there with any I think of during the course of the day to help get us to 50. I'll start with Louis v Conn I Frazier v Quarry I Thad Spencer v Leotis Martin (admittedly I did not see it but heard it was FOTY worthy)
Wlad vs Joshua Cooper vs Moorer Maybe I’m a sadist but their is something savage about Golota vs Bowe 2. I know Bowe took the worst of it but he did have Golota down and cut him. Just a savage fight
Berbick vs. Snipes Walcott vs. Charles III Schmeling vs. Louis I Holmes vs. Shavers II Bowe vs. Golota II Mercer vs. Witherspoon Mercer vs. Cooper Patterson vs. Chuvalo Marciano vs. Moore Just to name a few. I could really pour my heart and soul into this and get a shitload.