Compound lifting

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Rakim, Aug 9, 2007.


  1. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    Cheers for the help everyone, I'm going to check out Bill Starr's 5x5 routine now :good
     
  2. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    because at the beggingin stages even bill starr and mark rippetoe both recomend only doing 3x5. once you finish this program you should move into the bill starrs 5x5
     
  3. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    OK cheers. Why do you leave out rows?
     
  4. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    because u r doing pullups. you would overtrain the back.
     
  5. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    Pullups do the top part of your back, and rows do the bottom half, don't they? I suppose squats and deadlift also do the bottom part as well though.
     
  6. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this is wat bill said about 5x5New or Beginner Lifters:
    This is not a beginner program. You will make faster progress with less workload on a true beginner program. I really recommend Rippetoe's Starting Strength for beginners or novices. It's so critical to learn the lifts correctly and get started on a good program (i.e. not what one typically finds on bodybuilding sites). Rippetoe is the man at coaching beginners and putting muscle on them with 30-40lbs in 4-6 months being quite normal. The book will handle teaching you all the lifts. It's written for coaches and no, given what I see in commercial gyms, the internet and Joe Schmoe at your local gym are not capable of instructing you properly - they will screw you up and make you look like a moron or possibly get you hurt. On top of that the book covers everything to get you set up on a program that is time proven as one of if not the best beginner programs available.
     
  7. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    also that is bull **** theres no such thing as top and bottom back or w.e
    it gets worked.
     
  8. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    only differne is that one is a horizontal pulling motion and one is a vertical
     
  9. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    :huh Of course there's a difference, there's different muscles in each part of your back. http://www2.ma.psu.edu/~pt/backmus.gif
     
  10. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hyes i no there is a difference. BUT both get worked i meant the lift doesnt makea difference.
     
  11. HopkinsFan

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    rakim your original post's workout was more taylored to bulking up a lot, due to the low reps and high set count (you prob know this). which i don't think you'd want to bulk much if your planning to start serious boxing in a few months like you said. But then again, if this is what you do want, I would add dead lifts and put the rep count up to around 8 or 9 and lower the weight just a tad, maybe 2.5. Yes dead lifts are worth doing and doing right, if you got a weight belt that'd be great for your back but you'll probablly have good form :)
    My two cents anyway, hope this helps :)
    harley
     
  12. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    now ur a ****ing mroon. 8-9 is a bulkiing routine 8-12 - hypertrophy. low reps dont make u gain weight. aslo only way to gain weight is by eating.
     
  13. Sagefrancis

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  14. HopkinsFan

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    i said the low reps would bulk him up not make him gain weight you ****ing idiot,
    bulking up slows you a bit aswell. also, i only said to increase the reps a few because he seemed content on bulking up and i'm not here to change his mind. read the whole post before you go calling names you stupid *****
     
  15. Sagefrancis

    Sagefrancis Member Full Member

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    lol i didnt realise you could "bulk up" without gaining weight.
    please explain that to me.