Compubox review: worst title fight decisions

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  1. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Forgive if this has been posted before.

    CompuBox Review: Worst Title Fight Decisions

    Posted by: CompuBox on 12-09-2009.

    In the wake of Joan Guzman’s gift draw vs. Ali Funeka, courtesy of two inept Canadian judges and the absurd scorecard turned in by judge Pierre Benoist for the Williams-Martinez fight, CompuBox searched its archives for the worst decisions in its 25 years of counting punches in terms of the edge in punches landed by the jobbed fighter.

    The numbers from Tiberi-Toney, thought to be maybe the worst decision in a title fight in recent memory, are actually dwarfish compared to those from Lewis-Holyfield. But wait, it gets worse, the all-time heist is Dorsey-Paez I. Dorsey outlanded Paez 620-340 in total punches and still lost a split decision! Dorsey landed an average of 52 punches per round vs. Paez, throwing 114 per frame. The overall CompuBox average is 18 punches landed per round and 56 thrown. So Dorsey landed nearly three times the Compubox average. Of Dorsey’s 620 total connects, 609 were power shots (non-jabs). Talk about getting it done on the inside.

    The fighter on the short end of each decision not only landed more punches, but threw more as well in every fight except Tiberi-Toney. Toney threw 14 more punches.

    Fighter (Landed/Thrown) Result Fighter(Landed/Thrown) PunchesLanded Edge


    Troy Dorsey (1) (620/1365) L 12 Jorge Paez (340/697) 280
    Lennox Lewis (348/613) D 12 Evander Holyfield (2) (130/386) 218
    Dave Tiberi (3) (439/905) L 12 James Toney (290/919) 149
    Jose Santa Cruz (246/801) L 12 Joel Casamayor (4) (129/502) 117
    Mike McCallum (332/849) L 12 James Toney (232/714) 100
    Oscar dela Hoya (263/648) L 12 Felix Trinidad (166/462) 97
    Oscar dela Hoya (221/616) L 12 Shane Mosley (5) (127/496) 94
    Pernell Whitaker (311/790) D 12 JC Chavez (220/637) 91
    Ali Funeka (248/903) D 12 Joan Guzman (163/493) 85
    Manuel Medina (6) (273/1466) L 12 Johnny Tapia (193/722) 80

    1. Dorsey’s 620 landed punches the all-time CompuBox record for one fighter in a title fight
    2. Holyfield averaged 32 punches thrown per round, 14 less than the heavyweight average
    3. The totally disgruntled Tiberi never fought again
    4. Casamayor was knocked down in round one.
    5. Mosley averaged 11 punches landed per round, CompuBox avg. is 18 landed per round
    6. Medina threw an all-time CompuBox record 1005 jabs
     
  2. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Compubox numbers are usually ****. They are trying to justify their pathetic existence. Nothing more.
     
  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    what they do that pisses me off is recently tampering with the numbers in favor of the fighter getting the gift. Juan-emmanuel III
     
  4. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is interesting. But the more people rely on compubox numbers, the worse it is for boxing. There are too many variables that compubox does not account for.
     
  5. sadlittleboy

    sadlittleboy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After watching Angulo v Kirkland...I noticed just how **** Compubox numbers are. IF you get the chance rewatch round 1 and count Anulo's punches...then compare YOUR figures to the Compubox ones
     
  6. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sometimes compubox validates your thoughts on a fight though. You see a boxer getting the better of another, landing more clean punches and often compubox reflects that. Other times it leaves you saying it's bs though -- just depends on the fight.
     
  7. Revolver

    Revolver Active Member Full Member

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    Compubox are a good gauge.
     
  8. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We all know Compubox is just another thing for fighters to use it as an excuse and bias fans. What counts for me is the three judges and the fans, the rest of these fake numbers dont mean anything to me.
     
  9. Money

    Money Boxing Addict Full Member

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    de la hoya lost to Trinidad.

    Get over it!
     
  10. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Judges? You must be kidding
     
  11. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't lose. King bought the W for Tito. There was never a reason to be upset for that fight itself, Oscar dominated Tito for 9 rounds and coasted to the win. Judges wouldn't have let oscar win even if he remained dominating the last 3 rounds.
     
  12. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im not a fool and I know ridiculous decisions have been made by judges especially as of lately. Im just simply saying we have enough controversies and things like Compubox is a bad influence and just adds more fire. Judges will not always get it right, but I do understand that three judges are place in the different areas around the ring which will give them different angles and views of a fight. We tend to forget this as fans. But im no idiot to say robberies dont happen in boxing and all judges are great. Just like refs could ruin a fight doesnt mean we have to take them out. Im just simply saying I rather keep it simple, a ref, three judges, and unbias fans is enough for me.
     
  13. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. Compubox is just a last resort to attempt to certify an argument.