COMPUBOX: should we even care?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by DINAMITA, Jul 23, 2008.


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  1. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    What is your opinion of Compubox?

    I'm inclined to think it is completely worthless, and the stats just cause arguments between those who believe in them and use them, and those who don't.

    I would prefer if they stopped using Compubox. I don't see the value in punch statistics. How can punches be categorized between 'punches' and 'powerpunches'? How is it decided if they land or not? Boxing cannot be quantified like this. It is so inaccurate it is meaningless. Statistics can be used to prove things that never were. If you go by stats, Joe Cal was bouncing punches off B-Hop's head all night, but anyone who saw the fight knows JC never breached that defence with anything decent the whole night.

    We should rely more on our own opinions about fights and speak in round-by-round specifics, and never mention in-fight stats, and the world would be a better place. Death To Compubox!
     
    DINAMITA, Jul 23, 2008
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  2. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Compubox is not only unreliable, but it's also very blown out of proportion on this site by fans of a certain fighter. They'll give out the compubox statistics in most of his fights, but discredit them any time someone outscored him in any area.
     
    Sweet Pea, Jul 23, 2008
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  3. spiderricco

    spiderricco Member Full Member

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    Compubox is crap, you have a couple guys who push a button when they think a punch was landed.
     
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  4. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't care.

    They're just there to laugh at people on the internet who use it as "proof" that their guy won the fight.
     
    Thread Stealer, Jul 23, 2008
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  5. diamondDave

    diamondDave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Compubox is as subjective as the person who is using it. It still relys on a guy counting punches, and is skewed depending on their position. Also, it does not take into account the force of the punch. I would also vote to get rid of it.
     
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  6. Bazooka

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    Compu Box is a couple of guys with a punch counter who do their best at judging how many shots are thrown and landed, The problem is, those guys drink at the fights, how reliable can it really be?
     
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  7. tragicliston

    tragicliston Active Member Full Member

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    Any non-jab is classified as a power punch.
     
    tragicliston, Jul 23, 2008
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  8. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    It's irrelevant garbage. The number of punches in a fight doesn't even matter in the pro ranks. The only stats that should matter is ONE, because that's the amount of punches it takes to end a fight and erase all those precious punch stats before it.

    Those stats seem completely unreliable as well. I constantly find myself wondering how in the hell these guys wind up with the numbers they do. They count blocked punches as landed ones and count everything other than a jab a powerpunch no matter how weak it is.

    I have no idea why boxing venues still pay for such a useless tool.
     
    J.R., Jul 23, 2008
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  9. DINAMITA

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    I do know that, but I'm saying that that definition means nothing. Any non-jab is not automatically a 'power' punch at all.
     
    DINAMITA, Jul 23, 2008
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  10. ya-ni

    ya-ni Guest

    This great to have, take wlad last fight he got out landed, but he was no question in control, it was nice to see what people were doing against him,,,now take calzaghe/hopkins,,,why should hopkins lose on the cards, why? he was outlanded, an besides two nice shots in the fight, none of bernard really affected joe, an joe punches didn't mean much why was bernard running the whole night, why did he need to play up the low blow, because the 200+ that landed on popkins meant somthing,,,not like toney thompson meant, but more damaging, an as you can see by compubox, bernard wasn't inflicting the same damage, two good punches the rest were like a throwing leather in hopes that they would stop recieving leather.........As true sports fans know, stats are great for sports, it gets you somthing to cheer for,,Compubox is great for boxing....
     
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  11. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Compu box is the equivalant of typing .Allot of key strokes with some errors
     
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  12. BITCH ASS

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    The pre-fight compubox analysis is one of the best I've seen.
     
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  13. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    I have my own idea who you are talking about here, but as a relative newbie I ask just for certainty: fans of whom often do this??
     
    DINAMITA, Jul 23, 2008
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  14. Thread Stealer

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    De La Hoya fanboys use Compubox to talk about the Trinidad and Mosley rematches being such bad robberies, but ignore them for the Sturm, Mayweather, and Whitaker fights.
     
    Thread Stealer, Jul 23, 2008
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  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    The thing I find most irritating about Compubox numbers is that, almost without fail, punches that were parried off a fighters gloves get counted as scoring! (Reference Hopkins/Calzaghe, and both Pavlik/taylor fights as recent examples.)
     
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