Con game being put on by HBO and GBP ...

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  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    There is no way that this rematch should even be taking place ... I'm all for watching it but at the same time, I don't see it being any more dramatic than the first one. Most fight fans see the fight going the same way or even more in Floyd's favor the next time around.

    Now watching the Forbes v DLH fight showed that HBO is doing whatever it takes to add more drama to the fight. Bring the Mayweather brothers into the mix and giving Oscar too much credit for a fight than most expected him to win anyway.

    Father v Son ... Brother v Brother ... a rematch ... a chance for clarity ...

    B/S

    Why?
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    you're 100% right

    its an insult to boxing. Boxing is about divisions, moving up the ranks, fighting for championships. **** the catch weights! **** the superstar matchups! i wanna see the best fight the best

    boxing is not entertainment first, its a sport first, and entertainment second


    I like the countdowns, and I like the drama, but all that comes second to good fights between good fighters

    I actually did not watch ODLH vs Forbes
     
  3. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    That's an absolute ****ing scandal mate. Unparalled in the history of TV.
     
  4. PolishPummler

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    :lol:

    Fitz had the fight 7 rounds to 5 for Oscar....need we say more.
     
  5. fitzgeraldz

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    Because in the end it is us who gets disappointed ...

    The build up for the fight leaves us craving for it ... but I don't see the Oscar v Floyd II having that much behind it.

    It seems like HBO is desperately trying to make this one work ...

    When they really should be turning their attention to Cotto v Mayweather ... I don't think this fight is going to help boxing - but more help the pockets of Mayweather and DLH.

    What the hell is wrong with two young guys ... multi-division champions, undefeated, and in their primes ...

    Back in the day ... a fight between Oscar and Cotto wouldve been set up so that it would create the build up for Cotto v Mayweather.
     
  6. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    well i am definetly not buying it unless they got one mean undercard lineup which they wont. We should all boycott this crap and just watch the rerun the following saturday to see floyd whoop his ass again.
     
  7. acb

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    This is a great post and a reminder that even though HBO may be the home of boxing, and has great production skills, it still looks out for its own interests moreso than it does than the fan's.

    I was ready to gag watching Oscar on his tippy toes, jabbing a 135lb fighter who was content to go 12 rounds, while being told that had any real bearing on a fight with Floyd. Boxers don't change at 35 years old- DLH will be made a fool of in the next fight and will look slow. I won't order it.
     
  8. fitzgeraldz

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    I agree with you 100% ... its going to be hard for me not to order the fight ... but i'm hoping for a decent undercard.

    Oscar didn't show that he was going to do anything different in the second fight and at his age and the time he's spent as a pro ... that there's any room for adjustments and improvements.

    He didn't look faster and he didn't look any better at boxing ... People had argued with me when I mention that Oscar looked like the same Oscar.

    I have a feeling that this fight will be a flop ...

    The goal would be to get a fighter w/ a simular style as Floyd who posessess simular speed and agility.

    Forbes didn't have any of those attributes ... all he was - was a fighter that shared the same trainer as Floyd.

    HBO, GBP, Oscar, and Floyd are going about this the wrong way and Saturday night further proved that.

    I see where Floyd is coming from looking to make 30m ... but as far as HBO, GBP, and Oscar doesn't stand to gain much.
    They all can stand to lose alot of money in this ...
     
  9. PolishPummler

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    You are a terrible poster/fan.

    Did you not notice him on his toes and throwing lots of jabs?A much better gameplan for the rematch.

    Did you notice that he fought Mayorga and Floyd flat footed?
     
  10. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I agree with Fitz here actually.

    People believe that because Oscar fought effectively on his toes early in his career, and because he was on his toes again this Saturday, that there is a connection to be made. In actuality, his upper body movement was relatively unchanged. Sure, he threw the jab more and seemed relaxed against a 135lb fighter who wasn't throwing much back. When he sees Floyd and can't find his target, and gets countered, he will go right back to pressing too hard and abandon the jab.

    Not hating on him, but this is the boxer he has been for years, and its what he will be against Floyd in the second fight. I saw a boxer with less speed and slower reflexes on Saturday.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  11. PolishPummler

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    It's simple.

    Better gameplan and style of fighting for a rematch over 12 rounds without fading.

    Floyd vs Oscar was close through 7-8 rounds.If he can stay on his toes and jab through 12 he has a legit shot.
     
  12. fitzgeraldz

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    You can beat Mayorga with a straight punch ...

    Just because he was on his toes against Steve Forbes doesn't mean he's going to be on his toes against Mayweather.

    So what he was throwing his jab ... that doesn't mean anything ... he hasn't showed me anything different. He's not going to do any of that against Floyd.

    He can't keep up that pace of fighting against a younger, more energized fighter.

    This fight showed that if he did that against Cotto or Floyd that he runs the risk of getting knocked out.
     
  13. PolishPummler

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    Umm that's part of the reason he took a tune-up bout was to work on a different gameplan.Being on his toes IS the gameplan.

    His jab brought him success early in the Mayweather fight.It is the MOST important factor in a rematch.
     
  14. fitzgeraldz

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    Oscar's game plan is going to get him knocked out ... Floyd is waaay faster and a better overall fighter than Forbes.

    That **** isn't going to work with Floyd who's not going to stand there against Oscar. He's going to run the risk of tiring out as well ... he can't keep up with Floyd and follow him around the ring and expect to get anything off effective.

    He just can't do it ... bouncing on his toes and throwing his jab more wasn't the key to him losing the first fight against Floyd.

    He was beat to the punch ... he punched himself out ... he couldn't keep up with Floyd ... his lack of head and shoulder movement also hurt him ...

    he needs to pick up some defense ... I don't care how good Forbes is, there is no way that Oscar shouldve looked the way he looked after the fight.
     
  15. PolishPummler

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    Yeah that happens often:verysad

    His D is perfectly fine.He catches TONS of punches with his gloves.Infact his D is very underrated.