Conditioning beats skill...

good examples

 

:yep

It is stupid to assume there is some sort of 'law' here that must be enforced.

 

was gonna mention him. toney-jirov is a good example of skill beating conditioning.

 

I agree, in the sense that(in any sport)..if someone has great natural talent but can only use it for a small percentage of the whole game/fight/match....a lot of the time it wont be of great use.

now someone with less skill and talent but is conditioned to perform for the maximum duration can be more valuable.

...but still i wouldnt say conditioning beats skill all the time

 

A Rocky or a DM or a Glenco Johnson were pressure fighters who were in fantastic shape. It was not that they grew faster, but the other man having no time to breath, grew slower.


The ominous 7th was when the normal fighter started to gas, his arms fell and he lacked that 1/4th of a breath of air to get out of the way. It became harder to breath and move.

 

This one is hard to compare.
Conditioning and heart is the most important thing a trainer would be looking for in taking on a new fighter.
He could teach him the rest.
However, you cannot overmatch him against an experienced skilled fighter.
With experience --- those guys know how to relax -- even with substandard conditioning.
The conditioned enthusiastic novice often runs out of gas even thou he comes in in great shape.

 

Carl Froch V JT rang a bell when I saw this thread.

 

Hatton fighting the most of 3 mins of every round will indicate good stamina.

 

***** slapped.

 

That about sums it up ! :good

 

All of those except Calzaghe/Kessler, Calzaghe is far more skilled than Kessler, Kessler just had much better power

 

It depends on the disparity of skill and conditioning. An out of shape skill wonder can be beat by a very well conditioned fighter with skills at least up to the task to finally land. It does not work if the skill level is so different that the in-shape fighter simply can't land. It also gets difficult when the conditioned fighter is affected by the few punches the champ fighter lands.

 

Most highly skilled guys should be well conditioned. You dont make it to the top with bad conditioning.

However there are some examples of guys with natural talent that dont fully live up to it. Maybe something like Judah vs Cotto? But Judah doesnt really have stamina/conditioning issues as much as more of a mental thing of staying in the fight.


Obviously JJC vs Taylor comes to mind but I cant think of any others right now.

 

It's no where near as simple as conditioning v skill. But whatever.

Skill can pick apart or just plain KO someone less skilled. If a more conditioned man can take the abuse or heat then he has the oppurtunity to dominate when the more skilled condiitioning runs out. Thats just obvious IMO.

Skill is worth nothing when there is no gas left to run the engine.