Condit deserved to win the fight by the rules/scoring criteria, but the fight stunk the place out. This is the same thing I go on about again and again and again - when fighters come out with the gameplan/aim to win a fight on points, the fights are rubbish and do the sport no credit. A striker should always come out with the intention of winning by KO, doing everything they can to build towards a KO. A BJJ specialist should come out with the intention of building towards a sub, a wrestler should come out with the intention of getting the TD and then working to a finish via GnP or sub. Then, if they are unsuccessful in finishing the fight, the points verdict is incidental. They may win the fight on points, but it's not because they tried to win on points, it's because they tried to win the fight by utilizing their main strength, and when the time ran out they'd got closer to doing that than the other guy. Carlos Condit calls himself 'the Natural Born Killer'. He is a talented striker with a flair for KOs. When he doesn't fear his opponent, he can produce amazing finishes like vs Kim and Hardy. Tonight, Condit perfectly enacted the gameplan no doubt hatched by Greg Jackson and his team. The Gameplan: Run, throw legkicks, don't engage, throw enough strikes to accumulate points, run run run. He is a striker and yet he didn't try for a KO, he didn't want to engage, he wanted to win a boring points decision with as little engagement as possible and he did that. What a victory. GSP will fold him up in a ball and hump it 50-45 on all 3 cards. Way to go Carlos. :-( The Natural Born Runner/Legkicker. The only thing he 'Killed' was the main event of UFC 143.
OK, so eveyone who's faught maia and not let him take them down falls under this catergory to Got plenty more examples for you Popkins.
Coming out with a gameplan of winning a fight on points by landing legkicks and not engaging with your opponent is everything that's wrong with MMA in my opinion. :good
So the guy pushing and getting tagged while pushing deserves to win? If plan A, pushing forward ain't working then lets go to a play B. Wait ....I have no plan B. I'm going to just push forward and eat shots. I should win because of my aggression, no matter how ineffective it is.
Coming out with no game plan hoping your opponant will let you punch him is great... Carlos still out landed nick 4-1 How long you been watching combat sports?
Condit sat there and threw in combinations and didn't let Nick pin him against the cage and light him up. It wasn't all leg kick, move away. If that's how you feel, you should probably never watch Dominick Cruz fight.
I think Popkins' view is a bit strong, but I see where he's coming from. Personally, I want to see guys who come out to actually win a FIGHT. What Condit did was come to win an MMA match, and I can appreciate why he did it. It's his career and he's going to make some good coin fighting GSP now, but that still doesn't make me happy he did it.
I thought Diaz won the fight, but this is way too harsh. I scored rounds 1,2, and 5 for Nick. That said, I thought Condit won rounds 3 and 4 even more convincingly, and looked like he has more gas left in the tank at the end. The only reason I scored the 5th for Diaz is because he took Condit's back. This wasn't one of those fights where I thought the winner won just because of the scoring system, but would be on his way to losing with no time limit. Condit proved me wrong in this fight. I thought Condit would win rounds 1 and 2, and Diaz would take over and dominate rounds 3-5. It was pretty much the other way around.
Seems like some people are really buttmad Diaz won't fight GSP more than anything. Outstriking Nick Diaz and making him complain about it speaks VOLUMES. Diaz rants against UFC's siding with wrestling, and then gets outpointed on his feet and still complains because "BABY LEG KICKS". Yeah Okay Nick, stop being mad because he didn't go to war and had a gameplan.
Ok then gents. LaMotta is really 5-1 aginst Sugar Ray because he tried to kod him with every punch...
I understand the very first sentence. Maybe you don't understand what you wrote. Your stance is that the scoring system is wrong. If you disagree with the current scoring then I have to ask you... the guy who is aggressive but getting hit is the one who deserves the win?
Silvas performance against Leites and Maia are whats wrong with MMA. Compared to that, this is blood and guts. Honestly, as boring as this fight was, its still more exciting than Royce vs. Sakuraba.