Confessions...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Bujia, Aug 1, 2020.


  1. Bujia

    Bujia Member Full Member

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    It’s that time again. Discuss or post your own.

    I don’t rate Duran’s performance in the third De Jesus fight nearly as highly as most. I thought he was far more impressive in the second fight, among many others. People often laud his patience in the rubber match. I just saw it as straight up inactivity. He seemed to be perfectly content with coasting while waiting for a shopworn De Jesus to tire himself out. And tire himself out he did. He went quickly and without much resistance after that.

    I don’t get the fascination with it. I feel like that’s what Duran would fight like if he were on Xanax. No passion. No menace. No thirst for blood. Just going through the motions, assured that things will eventually fall into place.

    I may be exaggerating a bit to get my point across, but the heart of what I’m saying is true.
     
  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But in truth, Roberto Duran at that time was having trouble making 135 lbs, He was contemplating a move to the more comfortable 140 lb weight limit. A future fight against Monroe Brooks was on the horizon.
     
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  3. Bujia

    Bujia Member Full Member

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    That makes sense. He fought like a drained fighter. I’m not knocking Duran with this thread. Just expressing a genuine difference of opinion on a topic that I haven’t seen questioned before.
     
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  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, Duran wasn't caught nearly as clean as he was the first 2 fights. If he was patient,,,it worked
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Pimp C's Full-Time Tutor blocked Full Member

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    That's an interesting perspective. I can kinda see it, and I don't think it's Duran's best performance by quite a stretch either, although I don't think it was quite like you described it. I reckon Duran's better performances are Brooks, Leonard I, Barkley, Palomino, Moore, and Hagler

    Here's a big one of my own. I find Salvador Sanchez quite overrated. I already said I find the Gomez win quite overrated, which I guess sorta lowers my view of him as whole, since it is a monumental point in his career. When I see him mentioned as the greatest Mexican ever, I just can't see it. He's top five, no doubt, but number one? Nah, definitely not IMO. I also tend to find him a little bit overrated H2H, but he's at such a high level there where it's just what you like, how they'd deal with certain styles, what happened in their careers etc. I don't think he'd beat Pep or Saddler, and I don't really think he'd beat Pedroza or Marcel either. Just my opinion though, those guys are all pretty closely tied.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    Deep down, I still secretly believe Alexis Arguello defeats Mayweather at SFW.

    There we go, I've said it.

    Yes Mayweather has much quicker hands and feet, but he wasn't really a stick and move behind the jab type guy. He leapt in with left hooks and lead rights and I think Alexis times one of those leaps, clips him on the button, and hurts Floyd. Floyd then shells up against the ropes, Alexis with all the space in the world can unload his hellacious volley of shots culminating in Floyd crumpling to the mat.

    I know on Classic it's a given that Mayweather outboxes Arguello, and I often play along.

    But there you have it, deep down in secret I disagree with the lot of you.
     
  7. Bujia

    Bujia Member Full Member

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    Not bad so far. Keep ‘em coming.
     
  8. JLP1978

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    I have Pacquiao beating Mayweather.


    M 1, 5, 9, 10, 11,
    P 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 12

    Pacquiao by a round. Honestly, I could have given him round 9 as well. Mayweather s back was against the ropes, he was dealing with flurries and he look uncomfortable.

    Mayweather landed his potshots but they were after Manny threw 10 punches and landed 4. Neither was landing anything super clean because they are both masters but I favored Manny for ring generalship and controlling most of the rounds.
     
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  9. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry. I thought I logged onto classic boxing forum not the delusional network.
    W
     
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  10. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Arguello KOs Mayweather without ANY doubt. Different levels.
     
  11. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol
     
  12. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  13. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Earnie Shavers punching power was overrated. Where is the long list of 10 count KOs over rated opponents? The Shavers of Ali was to me the best ever. Crushing blows that hurt Ali 4ever. But, overall no way is he the hardest hitter.
     
  14. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even though I couldn't stand him, 1981-1984 jr-lightweight Camacho beats Mayweather with ease. Maybe the fastest ever.
     
  15. The Morlocks

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    FRAZIER was going to put Chuvalo on his ass if George hadn't turned away and quit. He was seriously hurt and was being annihilated.
     


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