Confirmation by Frank Warren Usyk ducked Tyson Fury, reveals emails, talks numbers

Spot on. I don't see the hype with Wazza's shows.

The ones with Fury have been awful, his other heavy is 89 and boring, what else has he got? I said this year would be rough for him and it's looking like i am right.

 

Sugar Hill always downplays everything to the press, acting like he knows nothing. He would have been over for Okolie anyway this week. But he was up in Morecambe with him, so imo he was training Fury.

 

Boxing Social interview with Johnny Nelson sums this whole saga up perfectly. Eddie Hearn got it right too. It’s a shame for boxing. Blaming Usyk is just pathetic. Everyone sees through it. It’s embarrassing.

 

They're usually awful, the only 3 shows I've been excited for in the last 5 years was Parker Ryder....look how that went down & Joyce Dubois which had the anticlimax ending & the only 1 which lived up and beyond expectations was Yarde Beterbiev.

The only good reputation he has left is making the Fury Usyk fight and then getting JJ to fight the winner.....that's it.

All his other fighters aren't worth talking about....there are 4 different promotional fights on tonight and the BT card is by far the worst.

 

Sugar is a wanker. He comes across as such a smarmy bloke.

 

Spot on. Peeps still think hes the saviour of british boxing!!

 

He does. Don't see how more people haven't spotted this.

 

Riddle me this. On the one hand, Warren spent weeks saying if Usyk does not take his 30% for fighting Fury there no other paydays for him (Frank even mentioned Martin Bakole). Now he telling us Usyk is off to Saudi to fight Wilder. He clearly the A side in that fight, Saudi's pay even 40% of the site fee they paid for his last fight and he can probably beat what he was offered for the Fury fight. Tyson is marketable but everyone knows Tyson last PPV against Chisora bombed. He can't sell a fight on his own- he needs the right dance partner. The AJ fight is not happening, so were the money fights to rival Uysk for Tyson? Money wise who really needs who and who is really the a-side?

 

He's not a patch on his uncle.

 

I'd imagine the Joyce vs Fury fight will sell well. If Fury doesn't take that fight next he clearly has no belief in beating any serious fighter ever again. Joyce is deserving of a shot but he's talior made for Fury to easily beat. Style wise he's basically like a taller, slower and easier to hit version of Chisora. Much better power than Chisora but I don't see him being able to land much on Fury.

 

Yes that a decent shout. It feels like a big British fight- do well in UK market but no real international interest? I less certain how the fight actually goes. The old Fury, the Peter Fury style mover/ boxer handles Joyce easily. But if Fury tries to hold his feet more, Sugar Hill era, I think maybe he struggles to keep Joyce of his for 12 rounds. One thing, everyone goes on about Fury stamina but for me it looks good because he able to control the pace. If Joyce can force Fury to work at a rate he uncomfortable with it be interesting to see how good it actually is.

 

Joyce fight will sell pretty well. But 600K UK PPV and 50K tickets will not get Fury what in his head he should be getting paid. It gets you 10-15m, not 60-70m

 

His stamina is very good. I don’t see Joyce making him particularly uncomfortable.

 

Let’s be honest fury does deserve top dolla he’s a superstar and will go down in sporting history he’s well above the rest so I can see where he’s coming from. He’s got the talent style excitement charisma humour everything he brings in the fans