Confirmed That Marquez Was On Roids For Pacquaio Fight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bowerboy, Oct 13, 2013.


  1. bowerboy

    bowerboy Active Member Full Member

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    The BIG takeaway for me from this weekend was that JMM looked way less toned, way smaller and way less powerful and sharp than he did for the Pacquaio fight just w few months ago. Of course for the Pacquaio fight he was suddenly and miraculously huge and rippling.

    I have no question in my mind that JMM was juiced out of his brains for the Pacquaio fight...how can there be any doubt?

    Also this weekend was another great example of why the A beat B who beat C so therefore A will beat C theory.

    Pacquaio has been royally screwed in his last 2 fights..big time
     
  2. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    his body looked nothing like it did for the pac fight imo
     
  3. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And what about pac's opponents? Were they screwed in their fights against him? By your logic he was on the juice as well. Huge and rippling for his fights, beating all of his carefully selected opponents, endless stamina. Then when Floyd brought up testing, he was smaller, weaker, more fatigued, and more importantly, he lost... twice. So the BIG takeaway here for me is that bowerboy thinks that Pac was on the juice until testing came about, and he got exposed.

    :good
     
  4. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its called random drug testing, the same kind that Manny refused to take to make the Floyd fight
     
  5. Scrap21

    Scrap21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm a pacquiao fan but this is pathetic. Bradley used a lot of movement, never let marquez hit him clean. Marquez looked ****in strong in there it's just that bradley was not there to be hit the way pac was. If bradley lunged into a right hand the way pac did he would have gotten KO'ed aswell.
     
  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    people are so stupid. the guy finally looked his age. he is way out of his natural division, against a young strong big champion, who was faster and can box. i'm fully convinced that most people are morons on here for picking JMM to win this, much less by KO.
     
  7. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    He was on roids for both fights, he's just getting old now and Bradley fought clever where Pac fought complacent and wild. Marquez still looked huge in this fight compared to even a few years ago say when he fought Diaz at LW.

    I think he's been on roids since prior to the Mayweather fight. His size has steadily increased without attracting attention. His face has also become very much more ape-like AND his head is the size of a large coconut :yep
     
  8. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looked about the same to me. :huh He just has problems with that style....and Bradley employed it well last night.
     
  9. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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  10. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All these people that automatically think someone is on roids because they have added 10 lbs of muscle mass and lost some fat in 3 years :lol:

    Please join a gym, lift some weights, eat food and see if you add muscle mass, then we can all accuse you of being on roids. The truth is that probably a high number of boxers are juicing, but adding muscle isn't a sign, any normal person could have added double the amount of muscle jmm has in the same time period WITHOUT the aid of roids.
     
  11. drakknoir

    drakknoir New Member Full Member

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    Load of rubbish, so what if marquez looked different. no doubt his training camp will have been different to the pac one. you sound like a pac fan rather than a boxing fan. you cant just use observations as your own doping test.

    as for pac being screwed, really? the reality is pac is an exciting boxer but with little defensive skills, hes getting older and cant rely on his speed and movement as its in decline. much like Jones Jnr (years ago), mayweather adapted his game slightly with great timing making up for his loss in speed. Pac and Jones jnr failed to do that thats why their decline was so rapid.
     
  12. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    Any normal person hasn't been fighting and training their whole life already, what a ridiculously illogical comparison.

    Marquez actually gained closer to 20 pounds of raw muscle. In his late 30's. Whilst managing to retain his speed.

    If it is so common then how about you show me another featherweight thats looked so strong and fast at 145 pounds (apart from Pac), particularly at that age. After that if you have time you can look at pics of Marquez's roided monkeyface. Look forward to it :good
     
  13. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He gained 20 lbs of raw muscle over the span of about 5 or 6 years, in your late 30's that's not impossible. I agree the head size is really suspicious and as I say I'm not disputing that there's a possibility he may be on roids, as probably loads of top athletes are. What I'm saying is that muscle gain is not confirmation that someone is on roids, even after years of lifting you can still gain steady amounts of muscle.
     
  14. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    Link of failed drug tests or shut da **** up
     
  15. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Does the fact Pac lost to JMM prove he was on roids for every fight up to that point?