Congrats to vitali on comeback win....

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Congrats to vitali on comeback win, peter was the first young genuine contender vitali has ever beaten....FINALLY...and congrats...he easily beat peter.


    However....I was unimpressed by both fighters. vitali outclassed peter, but why was he fighting with his chin sticking out and hands at his waist so much? any decent fighter would have knocked vitali out. Vitali dictated the fight, made sam look foolish. His long punches easily found there mark on peter's head all night and easily outjabbed him. but vitali did not impresse me at all as being a special fighter.

    sam was awful, i mean god awful. and worse..without injury he quits on his stool relinquishing his belt(what happened to the peter who fought ferociously vs wlad??) a true act of weakness and lack of mentally toughness in adversity.


    but congrats to vitali on a big win after 4 year layoff....perhaps i was wrong about the new heavyweight division. its more watered down than I though.
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Let me say this - you certainly liven the place up when you're about and posting

    :good
     
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  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    You don't get Vitali. He fights tall, he has good defense by moving his body and feet, good punch anticipation, he can block, and counter punch. All fighters have trouble hitting Vitali clean.

    Ali had a low guard too.

    I think Vitali showed plenty of skills tonight. No one, not even Toney who is a good boxer or Wlad who is great owned Peter like Vitali did.

    You could try props without a negative spin.
     
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  4. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    Peter the boxer isn't as much of a threat as Peter the brawler.

    I thought he was going to take Vitali and his old broken down rusty body to the cleaners.

    I was, of course, dead wrong.
     
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  5. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your criticisms may have some validity (I haven't seen the fight yet, myself), but surely, saying "Any decent fighter would have knocked Vitali out" is going too far. And historically, it is my impression that Vitali utilizes height and range in such a manner that he knows what he's doing when his guard is low, and is really at little risk.
     
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  6. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First, let's not compare Vitali to Ali who are two totally different fighters talent wise.

    Second, Vitali destroyed Peter and I'll give him that. However, Peter was a different fighter on this noght than he was against Toney and Wlad. He seemed unmotivated and was grossly out of shape.

    Third, Vitali himself was slow and looked old to me. It could be ring rust but he is thirty-seven years old now and by Boxing standards, that is old. His style was very bad as he is not fast enough to pull that off against someone young, fast and powerful like a David Haye. Vitali would have been beaten to the punch all night and eventually would have been stopped.
     
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  7. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Klitschko reminds of me Monzon in some ways. Not blazingly quick, awkward rhythm, accurate, and excellent when controlling the pace of a fight. Just a nightmare to look good against and damn hard to beat.
     
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  8. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Naw Robbi, nice try but Naw. thats going too far. good job by klitschko though, he did what he needed to do. he outboxed peter at all angles. Monzon was not ackward, he was simply very patient and very smooth in his approach, never one to overexert himself. its sickening how many on here critisize monzons style(not saying you do)
     
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  9. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    You expect something actually level headed in regards to Wladimir or Vitali?

    It'd be the same thing if Vitali had knocked him out clean in one. Over or under compensation. Take your pick, we would of gotten one or the other whether the fight ended in the first or the 12th.

    Check who made this thread again. I'll be waiting. :lol:
     
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  10. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would wager that he was paid to take a beating or he wagered on Klitchko to TKO him in the round he quit!
     
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  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I don't know where anyone ever got the idea that I am against Wlad. I am a HUGE wladimir klitschko fan, my favorite heavyweight of the era, in fact I am making a great thread about him in the next couple days about the awesome 1990s wladimir klitschko. stay tuned.



    Funny how this Russell dude, who likes to take pictures with his shirt off and post them in a forum like he's macho man(lol), critisizes my OPINION of the fight and abstracts from the part that I congratulated vitali numerous times and claimed he easily beat peter.
     
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  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm sure you're aware of the fact that some "fans" are more detrimental to fighters then their most fervent detractors. Skewed and warped viewpoints abound on both sides.

    And much as I know you'd love my sexy year and a half old pictures to be taken for just for you, I can assure you that they weren't. ;)

    Nor do I flaunt the fact that I body build as you do your slap ass gung ho military adventures. I posted pictures in a thread expressly for pictures after being asked to.

    Back to skewing reality as opposed to skewing what I said, Soozie Poo?
     
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  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Klitschko reminds of me Monzon in some ways. Not blazingly quick, awkward rhythm, accurate, and excellent when controlling the pace of a fight. Just a nightmare to look good against and damn hard to beat.
     
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  14. Loewe

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    :good

    Sorry but that´s poor.
     
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  15. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    The thing about body builders.......they all lack functional strength.
     
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