Congratulations DINAMITA! Joint pound-for-pound number 1. Pac v JMM III MUST happen!

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  1. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    This has been coverede before: David Diaz was a paper champion who was given his belt in order to sell the Morales fight. He did not win it.

    DLH that night could have been beaten by anybody, he gave NO resistance what so ever. You can manually count the punches DLH threw in that fight, he had no legs and no movement. Call him shot ot weight-drained, but whatever it was that night, that was a walking punching bag.

    Juan Diaz and Casamayor are both far better than David Diaz and the DLH that PAcquiao fought.

    Pac has a better career resume, JMM has the better recent resume. Both fights were very close, most experts had Marquez edging both.

    There is NO difference between JMM and Pac right now.
     
  2. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    I disagree with your reasoning but I agree with your conclusion.
     
  3. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    at Marquez's age, and now with his new style that brings heavy wear-and-tear, a stay-busy fight is a terrible idea.

    Hell I'd like to see him start working with Nazim Richardson, though I know he'd never leave Beristain.

    Marquez may have no more great fights in him, two more at the most I'd say. He has to wait for a mega payday bout, and can't risk aging overnight against an inferior opponent. Even if he loses to Pac/Hatton/Mayweather, he still makes a boatload of cash, which noone else can match.
     
  4. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    ********** PAC MAN V DINAMETA 3 **********
    ************** THE TRILOGY **************


    bring it on
     
  5. DINAMITA

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    That's all guesswork though. Because of his age, you think he should be slowing down, you think he should only have a couple more fights in him. Look at the actual evidence though - he just fought a naturally bigger guy who is known for fighting at and maintaining a high pace and throwing lots of punches. He forced Marquez to fight at a high intensity, and not only did Marquez weather the storm, he was the one who got stronger as the fight went on, he outlasted Diaz and knocked him out. There is no evidence that Marquez is declining, none at all, that's just guesswork with no foundation in reality. Every fighter is different. Bernard Hopkins and Nate Campbell were 36 when they turned in the best performances of their careers, Hopkins recently produced a magnificent performance at the age of 43, Shane Mosley did likewise at 37. We should only talk about Marquez slowing down when there is some sign of it.
     
  6. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    man it was a great fight and ko by marquez.But the fact remains he just lost to pac and pac just beat hoya.Pac made hoya look that old nothing else.was hoya prime no, shot no.

    What made the fight great was that marquez took way too many shots from a guy he shouldn't of took them from but still turned the tide later on for that beautiful stoppage.

    Lets not forget last year campbell beat this same Diaz who was undefeated at that time.
    And this david diaz who people call a bum thoroughly beat up santa cruz who beat up casamayor pryor to the Marquez win
     
  7. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    That's fair DINAMITA. For a style that requires fast movement and crisp reflexes at a lower weight, there is always a risk of aging overnight. And he is putting heavy strain on himself by moving up in weight, all the way to 140lbs, while he could still be making 130lbs.

    His stock is at its peak right now, I wouldnt risk him against anyone except a major financial draw. Hopefully Beristain doesnt make another managerial blunder, right now he should be focused on the paydays. Pac/Hatton is only 2 months away, he could get a fight with one of them in about 6-7 months.
     
  8. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marquez was fantastic last night and full credit to Diaz,he made it a great fight to watch both were good and gave an example of what a title fight should be like.
     
  9. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pacs #2. Knocking out the linear lightweight champ casamayor and a prime juan diaz is better than fighting my landscaper david diaz and grandpa odlh :rofl:
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    :lol::rofl:patsch

    No way is JMM the P4P #1 what a joke.

    He is probably #3 or so.
     
  11. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl::lol::rofl: In your dreams:rofl:
     
  12. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    all that matters is the ring rating. and gues what pac is still number one. so who is dreaming!!! pac>>>>>marquez forever and ever:D
     
  13. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and everytime marquez wins, the greater pacquiao becomes:rofl
     
  14. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its ok, pacs a good number 2:rofl:
     
  15. thesham01

    thesham01 Undisputed Champion Full Member

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    #3 or so???

    get a grip man, who is your # 2 so? or even your #3 if you have JMM below #3?

    your a joke, JMM for me is at least joint #1!his recent form is as good and opposition better then pac's!