Congratulations George Groves!

I wouldn't be surprised if he beat any of those guys right now.

Golovkin is getting on now. IMO it has always been possible for a faster, skillful fighter to out box Golovkin and now that he's getting older the chances increase. A prime Golovkin breaks him down and stops him but Saunders has a chance against this version. GGG probably still wins. I'd give Saunders a 30% chance

Saunders at his very best can potentially out box the other two or at least make it a very close fight. There's no reason why not. His speed and footwork mean he can potentially out box them and win rounds and combined with his sturdy chin means he will be difficult for them to KO. But anyway that's just my opinion and maybe we'll find out and see him against at least one of those guys in the future.

My question to you is, how is Eubank Jr going to beat guys who are technically superior to him? Which technically sound, top level boxers does he beat and how?

 

I pretty much have them three beating eubank. I think eubank does better against golovkin than billy Joe does. Golovkin cuts the ring off too well to get mugged by billy Joe.

I see billy Joe doing much better against canelo than eubank does. Canelo would knock eubank out.

It does come down to styles. Plus these three are all at the very top level. Or at least two of them definetely are.

Billy Joe with his technical ability won't
beat them. Just by bad luck eubanks found himself in one of the most difficult divisions in boxing.

If we say eubanks a natural 168 lb,er. He,d beat groves, degale and smith. All via the same method....by drowning them. The first two slow down too much. Smith not great if your smart enough not to hook with him.

Again tho eubanks stuck in no mans land....he won't beat golovkin/canelo/jacobs not because technically hes not great more because their very very good fighters. He will still get success against good fighters tho.

The question is how does he beat fighters technically better than him. Billy Joe was technically better than him. Billy took the first six rounds. Then eubank took the last say five is that fair to say. We,re not talking about a massive difference here. Think it was a single point in the end. Do we really think its impossible for eubank to beat a technical fighter on the back of that.

 

If Murray has a sizeable advantage over CEJ then he should be at 154.

 

Why are people bringing up size difference as if there was any? They were the same size lol. In fact, Eubank looked bigger to me.

 

Look again. Eubank is an ex MW, I'm fairly certain he weighed less in the ring and he looked visibly smaller (skinnier). Size always plays a part but Groves is the better fighter and would beat him even without size advantage. Groves has advantages in skill, experience and power which imo trumps Eubanks advantages in speed, stamina and chin.

 

Not as obvious as the disparity in skill which again wasn't for Eubank.

 

Eubank seems to lack boxing ability at the top level. Maybe he can do something but it's difficult to see how because when he faces high level boxers, he gets comprehensively out boxed.

You say people are going over board about the loss but maybe it's the other way around? Maybe people were going over board with the hype? Maybe he should actually prove he can beat a top level guy before we believe in him?

 

That was the key factor IMO. A boxer as well schooled as Groves makes light work of Eubank. He wasn't physically bullied he was outboxed. If he goes back to 160 there are a number of schoolings coming his way by people smaller than Groves.

 

Its not just the lost but Its how he lost. He was outclassed and out boxed bad in my opinion. Other than shear youth and athleticism CEJ brought nothing to this fight.

The fraud reaction is warranted based on the amount of press he and his dad gets and the amount of trashing talking both has done.

Can he improve? I honestly don't think he can. He just doesn't have the ring IQ.

 

It was easy for BJS whilst he had any kind of energy and the fact he was a notoriously poor trainer at that point was what allowed CEJ success in the second half of the fight. If that fight were to happen now expect a 10-2 type of affair in Saunder's favor.

I've long said Eubank wouldn't beat anyone well schooled and we'll see that time and again going forward. The fact he is talking about targeting Truax next says it all, he knows he can't mix with a classy operator and with 160 looking like it could catch fire he wants to face one of the worst titlists in world boxing at a weight he is supposedly too small for.