Congratulations to Abraham and his fans!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Pantera2000, Jun 22, 2008.


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  1. Hermit

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    He already said Abraham. Of course he has been wrong a couple of times before....
     
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  2. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    That is Sauerland softening things up.
    I hear Warriors has pics and will be doing there own release.
    Whatever it is, Alex is an ******* and it is completely in the wrong to get in a guys face and start **** when his just got KO's and laying on the canvas. No class whatsoever.
     
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  3. Executioner

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    oh, my bad. i didn't even notice that. thanks
     
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  4. Hermit

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    Ummm no.

    " Team Sauerland statement on Alexander Abraham"
     
    Hermit, Jun 22, 2008
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  5. Pantera2000

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    Yes, I was going to say that... :lol:
    I know you are a big Pavlik supporter, but like I keep saying, I am for some reason not sold on him yet. He is getting there, but I just have a feeling he is one big punch away from his train coming to a big stop. And if anyone can do it, Abraham can!

    Pavlik has been down a few times. Only Taylor really had him hurt, but it just shows he gets hit and can get hurt.
    Abraham has NEVER been stunned! Even with a broken jaw he never could be dropped. He is more powerful with single punches then Pavlik IMO. If Pavlik beats Abraham I will offically be sold! But, as wrong as I have been before, I just dont see how Pavlik can stop Abraham from connecting a bomb and then lights out for Kelly.
     
    Pantera2000, Jun 22, 2008
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  6. matt_maxx

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    I dont want to spoil this comeback-party, but somehow I dont trust the harmony:
    This is the perfect first step to accuse Abraham later of juicing up for this fight, which would explain his much stronger firepower in this rematch. You wrote way too much nonsense here. The best part was when you said that Sauerland booked on purpose a hotel without an aircon in 2006. Well, Germany isnt exactly the Mekong Delta where u need this, and a guy who trains in Puerto Rico should not have any problems with a hot day in Germany. I simply dont trust the peace right now. But you can prove me wrong!

    On the other hand I have to admit, you did a perfect hype job on Miranda and gave this fight a boost on ESB like I have never seen before. Without you this fight would have never been so anticipated by the ESB members as the way it did.

    In the end I have to say that I was a bit dissapointed that the fight was all over in round 4 coz I had expected a bit more drama. But thats the way it is.
    And I have a final question for you Pantera2000 as u are well connected with the Miranda-Clan. How much was the purse for Edison for this fight? I somehow missed that info.
     
    matt_maxx, Jun 22, 2008
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  7. Pantera2000

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    I dont know where you got those numbers. :huh
    Miranda was 185lbs going to bed Friday night. He was getting close to 190lbs a few hours before he went into the arena. Id say he stepped into the ring around 185lbs, what I would consider a great weight for him for this fight.
     
    Pantera2000, Jun 22, 2008
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  8. Bslice

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    At least you manned up to it. I probably would have switched my avatar and explained that I was on a huge wind up and that I am really a fan of the band "Pantera" and the whole thing was a huge misunderstanding.
     
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  9. Pantera2000

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    As posted somewhere else, Abraham passed the urine test for steroids (done by the Florida commission before he leaves the locker room). Offically he is 'Juice free'. But he has a very very smart team. I would not put it passed them to get him the proper materials that they know are undetectable for these types of tests. But all fighters have this same oppurtunity, so if he is able to do it and get away with it then more 'power' (no pun intended) to him. Maybe it was just the extra 6lbs... Who knows.
     
    Pantera2000, Jun 22, 2008
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  10. Pantera2000

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    I disagree. I thought Abraham would have been the 'easier' fight of the two. But hindsight, who knows... Kessler doesnt have as much power, but is a great boxer. Maybe that is what Miranda would do better againt...
     
    Pantera2000, Jun 22, 2008
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  11. Axe

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    Classy post by you, Pantera. :good

    Let's hope the Abraham fans respond in the right spirit.
     
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  12. startown81

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    Just got to say i like Miranda for his guts. He is not a mayweather or a kessler who weighs the risk vs reward. He just wants to fight the best and he believes in himself. I hope he can regain his confidence and become a world champion. He deserves it!

    One question to Pantara2k! I understand if you do not answer but i feel like he needs a new trainer. I know that he has a father son relationship with his current one but i think Miranda needs to learn new tricks. What do you think?
     
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  13. Hermit

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    Well, I'll vouch that you said this in a PM to me a while back but I held my tongue since it was a PM.
     
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  14. Alcaldemb

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    P2K nice to see you keep your word. Edison gave it a good go early and has nothing to be ashamed of.
     
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  15. Pantera2000

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    I dont think the problem is Bonilla. He is a great trainer. Edison is who he is. They work on skills and defense hard. He was using his guard well I thought in this fight and hitting to the body with huge shots. Even using his left a lot. His big mistake was he backed away from Abraham when he was throwing that huge left hook. He should have come in closer where he would have been hit with less force and stayed inside.

    Bottom line: Miranda can only be tweaked so much, he is a powerful aggessive fighter with too many holes in his D to fight the biggest punchers out there. I dont think any other trainer could improve him better.
     
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