Considering neither Benn nor Eubank have ever won a world title, why was their fight so hyped?

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm sorry but this is a very poor post and very poorly researched.

    Hold on a minute you criticise fighters like Mayweather, RJJ, for never travelling outside of America and now you're criticising Eubank for not traveling to America ? you're not very consistent with your views.

    And Eubank did actually fight outside of the UK he fought in Germany, Portugal, South Africa.

    Domestic level fighters ? are you for real ?

    Eubank was a 2 weight world champion and won something like 19 world title fights.

    Benn was also a 2 weight world champion and won 11 world title fights.


    Do you know what a journeyman is ? because Malinga certainly isn't anywhere close to a journeyman. He's a 2 time Super Middleweight champion and also dethroned an undefeated Robin Reid who went on to give Joe Calzaghe the toughest fight of his career.

    Yes they both lost to Collins at the end of their careers.

    Yes Eubank lost to a Cruiserweight world champion in Thompson who was twice his size and it was 2 weightclasses above Eubank's natural weightclass as if you're using that to discredit Eubank baffling.


    Maske was a Light Heavyweight.

    Benn/Jones was talked about after Benn's win over McClellan but whatever reason it never happened.

    Hopkins become a Middleweight champion when Benn/Eubank were competing at Super Middleweight Hopkins was not a big name at that point and never fought at Super Middleweight.

    Michalczewski was a Light Heavyweight.
     
  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hatton was not hype he was the best fighter at 140 during his time and was ranked number 1 at the weightclass for 4 years aswell as being in the top 10 P4P for numerous years.

    Losing to two of the greatest fighters of the last 30 years in Mayweather, Pacquiao, who would be amongst the top 20 fighters of all time doesn't mean you're overrated....

    Hatton was a legit world champion and would probably clean house at 140 if you stuck him in this era right now. He just wasn't quite on the level of two ATG's in Pacquiao, Mayweather, but again how many fighters were on their level ?
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Who cares about titles? I just like watching people fight and when there's a passionate dislike or long held rivalry behind that, that really brings out the pissiness and vinegar in the fighters, like we saw the other day. So just roll with it and enjoy it!
     
  4. TMLT87

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    Because the UK is a major boxing and general media market and their dads were household names there. Almost a third of the country watched Benn/Eubank 2 back in the day. Obviously adding a new chapter to that rivalry is going to generate some mainstream attention.
     
  5. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    By "not quite on the level of two ATG's" you mean "completely dominated, out of his depth, battered and stopped" by two ATG's?

    Hatton was wildly overrated and it showed when he stepped up. His most significant "win" is Tsyzu in a hideous hometown foul fest that Andre Ward would walk out on. He ate up the C+, B- tier fighters and when he stepped up he got crushed.

    It's EXACTLY the type of hype I'm talking about. It's the same thing we see with Joshua.
     
  6. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mate, Hatton beat a legend in Tszyu and was a legitimate world class fighter who went off the rails. He was real though, he wasn’t hype.

    Joshua dines out on beating a washed Wlad and boxes like a Playstation robot. So there’s no real excuse for him.

    As to Benn and Eubank, well surnames. That is all they have.
     
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  7. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Plenty of Yanks refuse to leave the US FFS. When did alleged ATG Floyd leave the states for a fight?

    Stupid argument, even moreso when you consider how many great fighters go to the US only to be stitched up by hometown judges and officials.
     
  8. TMLT87

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    Hatton and AJ were/are among the best fighters the UK has/had, and boxing is a semi mainstream sport there and Brits show up for their fighters. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The UK does more than its fair share of carrying whats left of boxings popularity.
     
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  9. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There isn't anything wrong with it. I'm happy for the atmosphere and the buzz that is brought by it. The other side of that coin is rabid fans that can't see clearly.

    Interestingly the best two talents to hail from the UK in some time are Fury & Lennox, yet they never received the love and respect that lesser talents Hatton and AJ did. Too Gypsy, too Jamaicanadian.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    This is a really bad post.
     
  11. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Reckon Joe Calzaghe was loved and admired by his countrypeople.
     
  12. TMLT87

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    AJ was only really universally loved in the early years, because of the high profile olympic success and because he had a marketable look. Fury in his initial run up to beating Wlad wasnt all that big of a deal to people but once the Fury/Wilder stuff started and AJ came unstuck vs Ruiz it was pretty much a 50/50 split fanbase wise. I mean Fury himself has a couple of huge UK stadium shows to his name as well and is a household name in the UK so he definitely got his props.

    I do agree with Lennox being overlooked though. He didnt really fit in anywhere because of his complicated heritage/upbringing, didnt help that he mostly fought outside of the UK too.
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hatton wasn't completely dominated by Mayweather he gave a good account of himself until the later rounds.

    Yes he lost to Pacquiao convincingly but Pacquiao was pretty much dominating everyone at that point except JMM so what's your point ?

    Again how is losing to two ATGs who are amongst the top 20 fighters of all time means you're overrated ? I don't get it.

    That takes nothing away from Hatton being a legit world champion and the best 140 fighter in his time. He just wasn't on ATG level but I don't think anyone ever thought he was an ATG ? So I don't see your point.
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

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    It's because Lewis had a boring personality and sometimes his fights could be dull. But in recent years he's been much more well received probably because of how bad the Klitschko era was people didn't realize how good they had it.

    Fury was liked at first they considered him a character and Brits like a eccentric character. But people got tired of his antics and rightly turned on him.
     
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  15. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You could say nostalgia but it's deeper than that. Simply, people love familiairty. It's why the mediocre rises to the top. It's why movie franchises are spammed beyond belief. People don't like to think about where to go or what to buy. "Eubank vs. Benn? Quality mate." - Average stadium-goer (footie fan).