constant presure is the way to beat floyd

It is Void himself that tells the boxing fans that he does not think he can beat Pac, styles make fights and Void knows it, Pac is the wrong style for Void, Void will always continue to make excuses...........

 

Manny, is not the puncher these idiots make him out to be! He will end up like his trainer in later life too.

 

Still for the life of me can't understand why you all can't realize that pressure is not the way.

Floyd - "I don't fold under pressure, I love it so put pressure on me."

Put pressure on him and you get beat down. You are not going to manhandle him or out work him on the inside. His defense is too good there. Once he shells up it is over and his split second change from defense to offense is by far the best ever in the history of the sport. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR8XQDbZo4Q
Also you need to understand that Floyd although at 5'8 he has the reach of a Middleweight and some Super Middleweights and he knows how to adjust.

Putting pressure on him and trying to penetrate that defense will get you beat every single time out bc he thrives on that. Shutting down Floyd's offense is the way to beat the man. If you can do that then you can possibly beat him. He lands at an outstanding high % every time out. I know we don't like to go by compubox stats but lets just look at it to prove my point.

Floyd vs Canelo
232/505 117/526
46% 22%

Floyd Guerrero
195/476 113/581
41% 19%


Floyd Cotto
179/687 105/506
26% 21%

Now the Cotto fight was won on power shots with floyd landing 34% of those. Cotto lost a 8-4, 9-3 type of decision but he kept Floyd's offense down. Floyd made his adjustments. Had Cotto slowed down a lot of those power shots it could have been a lot closer or maybe in his favor.

Ortiz through 4 Floyd was already at 49 connect against Ortiz in power shots

Floyd Mosley
208/477 92/452
44% 20%

Floyd Marquez
290/493 69/583
59% 12%

For you *******s that **** doesn't change against Southpaws. He held Judah to 19%. Corley to 23% while landing at high 45 to 49% and the list goes on.

Putting pressure on the man especially uneducated pressure will get you beat.
Castillo used educated pressure but no way did he win that first one. Go actually watch the fight. Floyd won the first 5 rounds clearly and was popping the hell out of him from the opening bell. Castillo got started too late and on top of that this fight was more than 10 yrs ago. Floyd is better in every level of his game now.

 

:rofl

Seriously people dont know what they are watching when it comes to boxing.

 

What does pac do on the inside with his pressure though? He flat out has no clue on inside fighting

 

How good was the gameplan if he was losing every round and his eye was closing?

 

So one of the best defensive fighters ever wont be able to defend the left because he cant roll it?

Yea because floyd only knows how to defend with his shoulder. He doesnt use his feet, or parry shots, he doesnt jab, doesnt use reflexes an he cant catch shots.:roll:

 

No he isn't no stoppages since 09 .

 

victor ortiz put on constant pressure.. look where it got him

 

What about speed? If you've got enough hand speed surely you can land before he can cover, right?

And if theres power with that speed...

 

B level fighters like Jesus Chavez, JL Castillo, and Miguel Cotto found some sucesss in applying pressure.

You have to take into account that the fighters I just named were B level at the time Mayweather fought them.

I believe a fighter with the capablitiy of a prime Cotto would have a shot to beat Floyd. Cotto was a fighter that applied exellent pressure, was strong physically, and could jab his way in as well.

The problem with even a prime Cotto is that his lack of stamina and just average chin drops him from being able to claim he's A level.
At his best he has A level abilities, but that there drops drastically in the late rounds as his stamina and chin lack.

Jesus Chavez, JL Castillo, or Miguel Cotto. If any of those 3 were at the A level in terms of overall abilities, they'd have a real possibility to beat Floyd.

Floyd is an ATG fighter, it would take an ATG fighter to beat him.
A pressuring type of style like JC Chavez' and Roberto Duran (both A level of the type Floyd has never stepped into a ring with) are types that could beat him.

You dont have to actually see a fighter get beat to realize you're looking at the blueprint to beat a fighter. You can actually witness the blueprint being applied by a B level fighter that does'nt have all the necessary ingridients to get the victory accomplished. You as an observer can correlate and use your logic to come to a conclusion that an A level fighter of similar style but with much more capablities would take him over the hump to victory.



"Blue print has'nt been layed, he's never been beaten."

If a C level fighters style has good sucess against an elite of the sport but comes up short of victory, let me tell you, he may have come up short, but you may very well been witnessing the blueprint that a much better fighter would use to beat that fighter.

 

I feel you but those guys regardless loss and on top of that Floyd is so much better than he was when he faced Castillo and Chavez. The Mayweather at 140 would have been too much for Cotto with the way Floyd fought there. Pressuring one of the greatest if not the greatest counter puncher ever will get you dominated. Its not like Floyd doesn't have a great inside or mid range game. Pressure all you want but somebody has to stop the guy from landing at 40 to 49% on average. He is too great defensively to allow him to land at that high of a connect%.

 

Why did manny miss 1,000 puches v clottey?

 

Mattysse,Garcia,or provodnikov have the best shot.
Real one punch power is THE ONLY WAY TO BEAT FLOYD!!!!

 

How many times do you think someone will land before floyd takes the shot away?

An pac doesnt hit harder nor is he faster than prime zab. If shane didnt get floyd out of there with that right an follow up shot to the temple then pac doesnt have a prayer.