Constants in Boxing - Observations and Discussion

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    In your time watching the game, whether it be decades or months, what constants have you noticed?

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    Are fighters truly never the same after being knocked out and receiving a concussion? Does it truly make a fighter more vulnerable to future punches?

    Are southpaws always a problem for orthodox fighters, even if there is a gap in quality between the two fighters?

    Do you consistently notice trends in the betting aspect of the game, such as the British almost always putting more money than any other country on their fighters, therefore skewing odds in an unusual manner?

    Do fighters that cross over from other sports into boxing almost always fail ? If you're not conditioned to take a punch from fairly early on in your life, is this an obstacle that's almost impossible to overcome?

    "Once they crack they don't come back?" :lol:

    Any and all discussion and observations are encouraged and appreciated.

    Keep it smart, please and thanks.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    How about this one.

    Robberies are a constant to preserve future mega fights.

    Examples would include De La Hoya over Sturm to protect the Bernard Hopkins megafight.

    Trout had no chance to win, none the less be competitive on the score cards, to preserve a Canelo/Mayweather megafight.

    Ricky Burns recently received a gift draw, more than likely to keep their bargaining chip for a potential big fight with Broner or another big name opponent.
     
  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Every fighter has a unique style - Like a fingerprint.. kind of amazing really.

    Anything can happen in boxing
     
  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do you have an opinion of what the most, and least, effective styles in boxing seem to be?

    I remember a few years ago unorthadox "ambush" speedsters dominated the P4P charts, in Sergio Martinez and Manny Pacquiao.
     
  5. Russell

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    Another example of a robbery to preserve an immediate super match would be Devon Alexander getting the decision against Kotelnik.

    Alexander was immediately rushed into a Bradley unification fight afterwards.
     
  6. Russell

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    More food for thought -

    If a puncher faces an iron chinned fighter, is there a statistically higher chance of one of the archetypes winning more often than the other?

    It doesn't always work the way it should on paper. Amir Khan despite all logic somehow beat Marcos Maidana for example.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Not really. A number of assets determine how successful and effective you will be in the ring. You can have two fighters who on paper would seem evenly matched but then one dominates due to their style of boxing - hence the 'styles make fights' phrase.
     
  8. Russell

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  9. NeckBreaknAiken

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    The most underrated skill in boxing - Footwork


    The art of footwork, positioning, and balance is never recognized by the casual fans and even the vast majority of hardcore fans. But this alone is one of the major contributors to upsets you see all the time that seem to come from nowhere.


    You go to any gym these days and you just don't see trainers teaching anything beyond basic foot placement for throwing punches. No one is teaching their fighters to actually master it, mainly because they themselves have almost no clue of its value or even existence.
     
  10. MartyMaar

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    Any advanced footwork tips you'd like to share?
    I also believe footwork and foot placement is CRITICAL.
     
  11. Lartize

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    "Never chase a puncher."

    Basically, picture being hit by manny pacquiao with him just throwing a punch. Hurts doesn't it? Now picture you trying to hit manny pacquiao as hard as you can... and instead being count-punched in the face. Hurts a lot more, doesn't it?

    Think Ricky Hatton or Paul Williams.
     
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wouldn't mind some more observations on this myself.

    Yes, punchers that have the ability to be mobile and force their opponents to chase them are extremely dangerous. Good observation.
     
  13. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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  14. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bernard Hopkins saids high. He controls fights with his footwork alone. That's been his single greatest asset since he turned 40. He controls the distance and pace of a fight with his feet. He's never out of position.
     
  15. Sweet Jones

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