Conte: Mayweather Justified To Test "Suspicious" Pacquiao

His speed is the same. The only thing that changed is his style he became even more defensive. If he did slowed down the changed is so small that anyone would've noticed it. It's the same with Manny. Many hasn't consider the fact that Manny used to drain himself to fight at the lower weight classes (122, 126, 130). Seriously the man goes down to 126 and hydrates to 140 pounds. There is nothing suspicious about that. Many boxers has already proven that conquering multiple weight classes is not impossible especially if the difference between in each division is only 5-10 pounds.

 

It won't and I am actually really telling you, good point.

The fact is that we won't know. The only thing we do know is that going forward he is testing. He is removing the cloud of doubt. Now all we ask is for Pac to do the same. That is if he is clean.

 

What I don't understand is that if you agree that it won't, then how is Floyd removing the cloud of doubt by accepting the testing. You just said that the testing doesn't prove he wasn't juicing.

 

These are YOU'RE quotes above. First you say he hasn't gained power, then you say he has. Those are contradictions. Trying to use technicalities show your lack of an argument.

Anyway, His sparring partners said he hits harder, Ariza says he hits harder and is getting better, Conte says he hits harder, but you seem to think you know more than they do. Pacquiao is now stopping bigger fighters, but he's losing power. He's walking down, bullying, and physically dominating much bigger fighters, but you're telling me he's losing power now? How does that happen?

 

Watch Mayweather at 140 and 147 and it's obvious he's not as fast. What does Manny draining himself have to do with this?

 

Conte is on Mayweather's payroll. :yep

 

You are still saying I contradicted myself although I clearly explained the difference between p4p power and absolute power. I couldn't have made it any clearer. Those are not "technicalities".

My two quotes:

"Pac has not gained speed and power"

"pound for pound, Pacquiao was more powerful before his move up to WW."

Where is the contradiction?

 

That is a valid point that I can't argue against. If FMJ left boxing and juiced then cleaned his system the last six months then hasn't used since? I can't say he did or didn't. That is honest.

The FACT is that whatever he (or Pac) did... FMJ is testing now. So according to the USADA? He is clean. Why can't Pac test too?!? Why?

 

why should he? He has an opponent who might have been juicing for 2 years, stopped for 6 weeks, and started right back up again...

That opponent came out of nowhere accusing Pac of juicing, trying to make it look like he is the Anti-PED enforcer and that Manny has to do as he says or be labelled a cheat?

naah man. think about it. No way.

 

I took it as you trying to say Pacquiao is more powerful without you actually saying it. We both know it makes no sense for Pacquiao to move through multiple weights especially in such a small period of time and do what he's done. Now you're trying to tell me that he's lost power when it's obvious to everybody else that he's gained power? How does he lose power but yet he's able to walk down, bully, and physically dominate much bigger fighters now? I would like for you to answer the question this time.

 

Yes I am telling you that he has lost power. I will copy paste the above post again that shows that If everyone else thinks he's a more powerfull at 135-140-147 than he was a 122-126-130, than everybody else is wrong. As Roger would say "most people don't know **** about boxing". I'll answer your other question in the next post.

Pacquiao's KO ratio for his 20 wins from 122 to 130 is 85%. For his 5 wins from 135 to 147, its 80%. So it has actually gone down.

Take Morales, Marquez, and Barrera out of the equation, three ATG fighters, and Pacquiao has 14 out of 15 wins by KO from 122-130, which is 93.3%.

If you look at boxrec, the only time Pacquiao has had a hard time getting his wins by KO is the first 12 wins of his career, when he wasn't even 18 years old yet. After that he has been a KO machine throughout his whole career.

So pound for pound he is not more powerful today than he was before.

 

KO percentages don't mean anything especially when you include knocking out bums earlier in someone's career. So, Ariza, Pacquaio's sparring partners, and Conte don't know anything about boxing? You know more than them? Fighters lose power when going up multiple weights. Pacquiao has gained power.

I'll ask you again:

How does he lose power but yet he's able to walk down, bully, and physically dominate much bigger fighters now?

 

GTFO here with this BS.

 

Dude you completely miss the point. The point is that it is REASONABLE for ANY fighter to ask for ANY other fighter to test. Especially when there is this much money and reputation at stake. Pac would have been reasonable to ask for Mayweather to test also.

The fact of the matter is this. If a guy WANTS to face you and get the money that you bring to the table? You test. Especially if you are CLEAN.

Why in the hell would you NOT test and then keep asking for the fight? It only make sense if you want to keep juicing. Then you come back asking for the same terms you ran from earlier? It only makes sense if you are cleansing yourself. If Pac is clean, test and get whooped like the rest!

 

Mayweather's 32 or 33 years old. You can't possibly think he's still prime can you? His prime was about 5 years ago. He's human and he declines like everyone else. He's not shot, but he's not as physically gifted as he used to be thanks to age and moving up in weight and that is obvious. He'll still clearly beat Pacquiao though.