Conte: Mayweather Justified To Test "Suspicious" Pacquiao

Pacquiao would walk down opponents before 10x more than he does now.

Look at his fight against Sasakul at 112, where Pacquiao won in a similar style to Margarito's win over Cotto. Look at his win against Ledwaba at 122. Pacquiao just walks through him. Look at his win against Barrera, where Pacquiao just blitzkrieged him.

He's alot more methodical now. With Diaz and Oscar, he outboxed them until they could offer no more resistance. With Hatton and Cotto, he walked them into shots that hurt them and then walked them down, never letting them off the hook. With Clottey, he was just content with racking up points and getting out of the way before Clottey could retaliate.

Pacquiao was walking down and bullying fighters much much more when he was in the lower weightclasses. Anyone who's seen his earlier fights know that now, he is ALOT more methodical. He has to be against these bigger guys who are stronger than him.

If you don't believe me, look at the Diaz fight. Pac fought on his toes the whole night. Look at the Oscar fight, Pac fought on his toes almost the whole night. Look at the Hatton fight, Pac fought going backwards until he walked Hatton into a beautifully timed right hook. Look at the Cotto fight, Cotto is bullying Pacquiao until Pac walks him into a stiff uppercut. Look at the Clottey fight, Pacquiao tried to bully him and not a single scratch on Clottey while Pac's face was bruised from less than 10 punches per round.

 

See Sox. This is the kind of crazy ish we got to argue to these fools.

FMJ's physical prime was long ago. He ring IQ is probably on genius level right now. The problem is that his heights were so high that on his way down he is STILL miles above Pac.

Pac doesn't want it, unless he doesn't have to test. :yep

 

i agree that its reasonable to ask for OSDT. But you also have to ask it reasonably. I've posted a couple of times Team Povetkin's statement from when they asked Wlad to undergo testing. Read it and compare it to what Floyd did to Pac.

“We have gathered you today to voice one of our wishes for Team Klitschko, whom we respect cordially. Once again I want to point out that this is a wish and surely not a demand. We address the following words to the honoured master of sports and fellow Olympic super heavyweight gold medalist about the event, which is being one of the most anticipated match-ups worldwide in the recent history of boxing’s glamour division.

A hard and nervous stage of negotiations is ahead of our camps. But one question exists, which should be resolved positively for the benefit of the sport and for the future of boxing. I’m talking about the centralized and effective system of anti-doping tests.

This question was long discussed by the international boxing community and it’s time to draw a line and to start a new, clean page in the history of our sport without performance-enhancing drugs. And we can do it – with the support of Team Klitschko, of course. We ask Wladimir to aid us and to agree on such set of anti-doping procedures for the fight between him and Alexander, which will follow the Code of WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency). It’s time to make a leap forward and to open a new era in pugilism. I wish that idols of our youth will break up the old rules to make something new and worthy”.

“I want to emphasize that we aren’t demanding anything; we are asking for partnership from Team Klitschko in resolving this difficult question. Firstly, we are challengers and Wladimir is a champion, so he has something to demand. Secondly, one can surely think that we doubt Wladimir’s cleanness and his integrity. Surely not!

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You're missing the point. I didn't say he wasn't walking down fighters when he was in smaller weight classes. He's doing this stuff against much bigger opponents. Who has done this throughout the history of boxing? No one moves up multiple weight classes to bully and physically dominate much bigger opponents. It's never happened before. Can you name fighters who have done this against world class fighters?

Pacquiao did bully Clottey but, Clottey kept his guard up all night to protect himself. He didn't throw anything back. It's easy to see why he didn't have a scratch on him.

 

As I've said before:

'Pretty Boy' Floyd is to 'Air Jordan' what 'Money' Mayweather is to the 'MJ' (less hopps, more midrange/lost post game) era. The loss of physical gifts are made up for by being smarter, more economical athletes.

 

I didn't miss the point you just seem to have ignored what I wrote.

He's alot more methodical now. With Diaz and Oscar, he outboxed them until they could offer no more resistance. With Hatton and Cotto, he walked them into shots that hurt them and then walked them down, never letting them off the hook. With Clottey, he was just content with racking up points and getting out of the way before Clottey could retaliate.

Pacquiao was walking down and bullying fighters much much more when he was in the lower weightclasses. Anyone who's seen his earlier fights know that now, he is ALOT more methodical. He has to be against these bigger guys who are stronger than him.

If you don't believe me, look at the Diaz fight. Pac fought on his toes the whole night. Look at the Oscar fight, Pac fought on his toes almost the whole night. Look at the Hatton fight, Pac fought going backwards until he walked Hatton into a beautifully timed right hook. Look at the Cotto fight, Cotto is bullying Pacquiao until he walks him into a stiff uppercut. Look at the Clottey fight, Pacquiao tried to bully him and not a single scratch on Clottey.

 

You can shove that BS. :hand Pac hasn't "lorded" over WW like the Klits have. I don't think any man in the fight game has earned that kind of respect, but if any men have? It is the Klits over the HW division. Pac can go kick rocks if he expects that kind of request to be made when he doesn't even earn more than FMJ and isn't even the favorite in the fight! You are smoking some PREMIUM! :cannabis

You still keep attributing FMS's words to FMJ. His FATHER said that it is his OPINION that SOMETHING isn't right and that he must be on SOMETHING like some SUPPLEMENTS or SOMETHING. That is a man's opinion. That man happens to be the father of FMJ who even FMJ hasn't even talked to in years. Now FMJ is responsible for him? He is a GROWN MAN!!!!

Not one of you clowns is saying Pac said FMJ is an easy fight. Roach said it. You attribute it to Roach. As you should. Arum says tons of dumb crap. You attribute it to Arum. As you should. You don't do that with FMJ though. More of your ******* BS double standard.:bart

 

I agree with you man. Pacquiao might only take the fight if he's allowed to juice........................................allegedly.

 

True that.

The funny part is that Pac would have had a better chance against the OLD FMJ. He risked way too much way too often. People talk about "hurt" during this SSM fight. This was small potatoes. FMJ has been in the trenches with dudes throwing far more recklessly, Castillo, Corely, and NDou.

Pac is going to be taken to school.

 

I didn't ignore your point. Even if he's not walking them down as much, he's still doing it. All of the that stuff you just posted was meaningless to the actual point. He's bullying and physically dominating much bigger opponents right? No one moves up multiple weight classes and does this. Can you name fighters who have done this against world class fighters?

 

You can't expect Pacquiao to become a ***** all of a sudden because he is moving up in weight. He has packed on some muscle as well and though he can't be wreckless like he used to be an get away with it, he will still conserve some of his basic charateristics like power (though less p4p power than before), stamina, punching tecnique, accuracy, and relentlessness. You guys think the only a certain style can be successful moving up in weight. You want an example of someone who moved up in weight and continued physically dominating bigger opponents? Does Henry Armstrong ring a bell? He did it moreso than Pacquiao, who really has become more methodical and less of a bully than he used to be.

 

How does he pick up muscle and not slow down? No speed loss, power loss, or stamina loss? Add to the fact that he's in his 30's, he should be declining even more, but he hasn't lost anything. Pacquiao is the only fighter I've seen who hasn't lost anything and has gained power while moving through multiple weight classes.

Henry Armstrong didn't bully or physically dominate opponents. He just stayed in your chest and outworked you. His style was primarily getting into to your chest and out hustling you. He had an intelligent and aggressive style, but he wasn't a KO guy who relied on power. He didn't overpower power his bigger opposition. Plus, with Armstrong you're really talking about 3 weight classes? Not including his draw at middleweight for obvious reasons. Can you give any real examples?

 

As a matter of fact I watched that fight and had been a Pac fan since then. I haven't been following boxing since I was born, but I started when Tito was rising so I have been here for a couple of years now. You know what I'm talking about, fact is you don't wan't to understand it. When Pac was fighting against Barrera, Morales and Marquez he didn't dominate the way he is doing know and you know it. He became a MONSTER from Diaz on and I haven't heard of a single fighter that becomes better at his 45+ fight in his career and in just two years becomes the hottest **** in boxing.

 

We will probably never know really

 

The only difference appears to be he's tensing his biceps in the second picture, that and better lighting.

If you look at this picture from the Marquez weigh in he doesn't look too big at all.

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