Conte:"Testing should be 10 Weeks to 2 Weeks from Fight"

We are talking about steroids only in this thread. There are other PED's out there, numerous different ones. So since this is ideal to test 14 days before a fight, then testing up to the fight is useless? You're a ****ing moron. What about the other PED's? I'm sure you're an expert on every single one and can list every single one and their detection times, the implications of that, how fighters can use them to train, etc. Since you know everything about PEDs I'm sure you can explain all of the above for us in detail :rofl

More testing can only help the sport, period! The ONLY reason you would refuse testing or not want more testing is if you are ****ing cheating!

 

Wrong. Floyd asked for 14 day cutoff and there would have been a fight. Everything else was agreed, but Manny wouldn't back off 24 days. This was 1st negotiations. That's where and why it ended.

From then on, Floyd said up to the fight, and Manny was saying 7 days. And then Manny says he will test in between rounds and blah blah blah, but Arum won't let him fight at this point so it doesn't matter.

 

Well, a man can change right? He was caught, he probably knows he needs to walk the straight and narrow or risk MUCH harsher penalties this time around. Hell, I'd trust him to know the inside and outs of illegal doping practices more then most people.

 

Yet Mosley, Ortiz, and Cotto had no problem with it.

Y doesn't Manny do this testing with a 30 day cut off when he isn't fighting Mayweather though. Or even do unlimited urine testing up to the fight even when he isn't facing Mayweather? I get the issue about having his blood drawn or whatever, he believes it will negactively effect only him. But he should at least be doing unlimited urine by his on initiative since he doesn't seem to have a problem with that. And say hey look I do unlimited urine testing for all my fights and have been urine tested this many times for this many substances and have come out clean.

 

He can change. And I DO trust him to know the inside and outs of illegal doping practices, but one would be a fool to believe he's going to TELL us all of the ins and outs. A man that made a career on beating PED tests is going to now tell us when what period we SHOULDN'T test? ****ing kidding me, and you guys are actually buying it. atsch

Exactly. People act like anabolic steroids is the only PED. This is flat out stupid and if it wasn't ESB I'd be shocked people are taking what he says to heart. Instead of testing a larger period of time (which was most people's complaint) he wants testing to be even more limited and cutoff.. And people agree! atsch

It's like we're back at step 1. First we didn't want any extra testing because Floyd asked for it. Then we agreed to test before the fight with a cutoff.. Then people saw testing didn't hurt ANYONE thus far in boxing who's taken it without cutoff.. Then we saw people getting CAUGHT by these random tests without cutoff.. Now we're going BACK to having a cutoff on testing after we've made progress?

Anyone wonder WHY Conte is NOW saying this AFTER a fighter of his was CAUGHT without cutoff? Get a ****ing clue people... He didn't have anything to say until Berto had issues, whether he was trying to cheat or not it obviously made Conte think. And THIS is his response.

 

I've thought this for years. Both Mosley and Vargas didn't know what they were doing when they were roided up... they looked real tight, no looseness or fluidity, and more robotic. Mosley was noticeably slower. If you look at Mosleys career, you can tell that he only took steroids after his losses to Forrest. All of a asudden he was ridiculously muscular, wasn't loose anymore, and noticeably slower. Oscar was faster than Mosley in their second fight... and you can see it in the first fight against Winky.

 

Self ownage at it's best :roflatsch

Young terror will be here any minute.

 

actually floyd wanted 14 days at first

 

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dude is only going to tell us half of it

 

And when Pac agreed, Floyd wanted testing all the way to the day of the fight. And when Pac agreed to that...well, we know how it went. :roll:

Gullible ****... if Floyd pissed on you and called it rain, you'd swear there was a rainstorm out.

 

there are other ped's out there

boxing needs to have random testing all way up to the fight

 

It was a road block. Anyone who knew anything about PED's already mentioned the fact that yo wont reap much benefits at all from cycling PED's 2 weeks before a fight, most of the work is done during training camp for that 8 weeks. All this whilst avoiding random urine test and post fight blood test.

Pac stated the blood tests made him weak, psychological or not, its not something he made up on the spot, he already mentioned in an interview years before for the Morales fight that he didnt like the blood test on day of fight.

Now consider Pac agreed to unlimited random urine testing till day of fight, obviously proving he doesn't have anything to hide else why agree to random urine testing till day of fight? This also gives more credibility to his excuse of no blood on day of fight cos obviously if he was ducking the test, he would duck BOTH urine and blood, not blood 2 weeks out and urine unlimited. Now also take into account that in the random testing so far where Peterson and Berto got caught, it was both via random urine testing.



IMO here is what really happened. Floyds dad got scared, accused Pac of roids. Pac says fine I'll take the test, Floyd says blood test up until day of fight. Pac realises he dont like blood test day of fight due to past circumstances, ie the Morales fight so he says he dont want blood test till day of fight, however willing to take it randomly through training camp until 21 days before the fight but also take urine test randomly till day of fight AND agreed to post fight blood test, locker room if they have to. This again proves that its not so much the worry of hiding something, its the worry of it affecting his performance hence why the cut off date and agreeing to post fight blood test.

Floyd obviously realises that there isn't any benefit to Pac taking drugs 2 weeks before the fight, one that random urine testing couldn't catch and one that would be clear by fight night cos of the post fight blood test. However, he knows that this will make Pac look bad regardless with the right propaganda. So he goes on his mantra of "if you're the best take the test", mindless idiots just go with the flow.

Of course if Pac really wanted the fight, he would have agreed the a smaller cut off date first time round, 7 days. I think it was a case of ego for Pac, for Floyd he wanted to get one over Pac, if Pac disagrees he wins PR war, if Pac agrees he wins psychological war, meanwhile Arum is just happy its not happening.

None of them wanted the fight, but Floyd put out the roadblock in the first place.

 

if there are some unknown ped's out there, you must know them first before you could catch them.
it won't matter how random or often you test the subject if that subject is taking an unknown PED...like an A-Side Meff, you won't catch 'em.