Conte:"Testing should be 10 Weeks to 2 Weeks from Fight"

Funny how he got the urge to have the extra testing when he had to fight another prime dominant fighter, if he wanted to clean up the sport why didn't he start demanding the extra testing as soon as he was the man, post De La Hoya?

I dont disagree with the testing in light of recent weeks and think it should be mandatory for all title fights but I still believe that the initial demand from Floyd was a way of getting the upper hand in the negotiations and nothing more. I dont believe for a second he actually thinks Pac is juicing.

 

Because there was no Little Man blowing up in weight and blowing up the competition all of a sudden.

With all those people saying...HOW IS HE DOING THIS...AMAZING...is the same thinking the Mayweather's thought. And with Sr. and Roger in his ear, it rubs off.


Pac set an alarm off.

Just like certain guys set off alarms in other sports, like Baseball.

Clean or not, it is something seen as "out of the norm" that is happening that will set off an alarm.

 

Or he didn't want to risk that 0 fighting Pac. Is that not a valid way to look at it aswell?

There is nothing there to suggest Pac is taking PEDs, just the ramblings of an actual drug addict.

Did the A-Side Meth balloon Pacs head, or did the actual meth rot Sr's.

 

Pac could have agreed to the full testing and we would have found out. He could even have even taken the other offers that were on the table, like the offer of 40 million that was offered and just get that "W" over Floyd but he doesn't. In the end, both are about negotiating what they want. It's business over Legacy for both.

As long as he gives room for Floyd to breathe, we just don't know.

But could Floyd be worried about his "O"....sure, why not. It's a big deal to him.
I've always questioned if he is worried that being declined if he is sure enough that he would win. He may have been positive if he were younger but at this point, I just don't know.

There is nothing there to suggest Pac is taking PEDs?

Everyone in this era is suspect.

Isn't this the Guy that have followers continually pointing to him being a 106 pound fighter?
Isn't this the Guy that have followers that praise that he is doing something other fighters haven't done moving up in weight and how quick he did it?

Isn't this the guy that is destroying Giants?

Isn't this the guy that is still shredded while moving up in weight while staying fast as lightning from head to toe and knocking MFers out?
All while having a "Personal trainer" making him special shakes and training regimens?


You see, the more praise he gets for doing something unreal is the same amount of questioning of how is he doing it.


Is he on PEDs? I don't know. I don't know about any of these fighters being on them or not. Some can go most of their career being clean and then suddenly go on them for one reason or another.
But when something is seen as unusual (without being able to debate why he may be able to do it), it will set off an alarm.



Personally, I've always leaned on him being "Clean" because I appreciate modern nutrition/training/science as being an advantage as long as you get the right team in place. Something he was accepting while other fighters were staying behind the times like Floyd.
But can I be positive he is clean? NO.

 

I dont doubt that anyone could be taking PEDs, but there was nothing to suggest that Pac was any more likely to be taking PEDs than any other fighter.

He started at 106, he was 16 years old, I dont think anyone is claiming he is a natural 106lber. As a young amaturer Floyd was also fighting at 106lbs, he has also kept a lot of speed and is still an athletic monster at 154lb. How is Pac going up in weight any different.

 

This cocksucker should be shot in the head. ****er is a serious plague for the sport. Any fighter in their right mind would avoid him

 

With all the weight debating going on from both sides (from especially the fans)...For all the credit Pac gets for weight and accomplishments, how come Floyd doesn't if they are both the same?
Paclanders want it both ways: Pac is doing something amazing and Floyd didn't. Yet when weight is the issue, O', they are the same.
Floyd did the same at one point.
They do it to suite their needs.


Floyd's declined for years in overall athletic ability.

130-140 was his peak years. More so up to 135. His hand speed was what remained for a long time and even that has declined. He fought at 154; he is not 154 pounds. He declined at WW/147.



Start weight of Floyd was 130 at 19 years of age.

What was Pac's weight at 19 ?

When did Pac start fighting in the 130 pound division?




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Because he wasn't active as a pro at the lower weights where as Pac was. He might have declined but he is still athletically gifted, his hands speed and reactions are up there with the best in the sport. Same goes for Pac.

Fair dos though, I dont disagree with you, you've made your points well and I respect them. Time for bed.

 

I don't need Conte to validate my opinion. 14 days was always good, no fighter is taking anything 14 days out that will make a difference and not show up in the post fight test.

Doesn't matter anyway, i'm resigned to this fight never happening.

 

Who the **** cares why Floyd wants testing? Why does it matter if you are clean then it should not matter when, how, or ****ing where. You guys sound ridiculous trying to justify the need for a cut off date.

Just take the ****ing test and fight the ****ing fight.

 

Because IF Pac doesn't like blood being drawn and IF there is indeed an adverse side effect there's no way Roach would allow it.

So if a 14 day cut off is sufficient for testing with a post fight blood test what's the big deal? Give them it.

I'm pretty sure if Pac was on something it would be top of the line undetectable gear anyway.

 

So, thats it. Pac doesn't like and I emphazie like blood being drawn because there is no medical basis for his feelings. Let alone allow those feelings to impact testing for possible banned substances which is an actual thing. As evidenced by recent findings.

So, no I choose not to entertain his superstitions. There is a better argument for purse split than there is for compromised drug testing.

Believe me I understand wanting to get this fight done. I would love to see it. But, the fan support of something so simple, I just do not understand.

Although, I think in the end Floyd will give on the cut off in favor of the purse split that is the only way I see this fight taking place.

 

I've posted it here before but if Pac is in anyway like my brother with regards to blood being drawn I take his side.
I've seen my brother pass out twice and throw up numerous times over a period of hours from having blood drawn. Whether there's a medical basis or not those are facts, but I don't know Pacs position so can only assume it's similar.
Under those circumstances I can easily see why the last 2 weeks of training Roach doesn't want those distractions, it would play on Pacs mind plus the physical implications of the actual tests. If PAC was tested in the morning Roach can forget about a full days graft in the gym.

But this is all assumption on my part since as I stated I don't know the effect it has on Manny.

 

Pac agreed to that after the fight was called off, and Floyd had already told him there would be no cutoff in the future.

The Pac said 14 days, after Floyd already said no cutoff.
Of course, you were probably to busy eating your dinner out of Arum's old wrinkly white ass to see the truth. :deal