Conteh vs Monzon

*****, champagne, and white powder ****ed him up. Watch him in the first Saad fight when Saad has illegal plastic skin on his eyebrows they also used banned Monsels Solution to staunch the cuts..Same thing happened against Parlov.

 

No way in hell!****ing Saad couldn't ko a motivated Conteh,Carlos aint doing it!

 

If the rumor was true, the Conteh v Monzon fight was never made.
Somebody had "second" thoughts.

 

Good point. I'd pick a few old-timers moving up, but Jones Jr is the only middleweight of the last fifty years I'd see beating Conteh at 175.

 

Whose the best fighter he ever defeated? He was lucky to escape with a draw against Jesse Burnett..seems to me monzon was in a much higher class...I don’t think the extra 15lb make a difference here

 

Ahumada
Hutchins
Finnegan
Lopez
You sure Monzon beats that quartet?
Monzon pulled out of talks to make the fight, Conteh wanted it.
ps I thought Conteh beat Parlov, and if Saad hadn't been allowed to get away with the plastic skin etc he might have been stopped by Conteh on a tko.Saad would have beat Monzon up.
Conteh would have been 50/50 with Galindez, Monzon would never go near his compatriot.Great middle, but he knew were his fortunes lay.

 

I think Conteh is slightly overvalued here. However, he was a tough dude with faster hands and a 15-pound weight advantage.

Monzon, who made a living being a very large middleweight, sometimes having a much smaller welter/jr middle moving up to meet him would have the tables turned!

I like Coneth here, most likely on points.

The jump from Middle to Light Heavyweight is a big one. Those moving up need fast hands and very good power. Monzon to me was not fast and had good attrition like power at 160. Carlos made a wise decision staying put.

 

Carlos Monzon was far wiser and prudent in his professional life than he was in his private life. Like his fellow middleweight giant Marvin Hagler, he never succumbed to the temptation to go division hopping. It fits some fighters by virtue of the demands of their bodies/physiques, i.e., how they carry extra weight, and how that extra weight figured in their fighting abilities, as well as what their fortunes are, opportunity wise in a particular weight division vs what they would be north (sometimes south) of their present division. Both Monzon and Hagler probably each figured that the middleweight division was ideal for them, all things considered....and since they both went on to being ultra-successful, long term 160 lb champions...then middle was a "perfect fit"...so why stake perfection against the negative possibilities of a foolish foray into a higher weight class? Both Monzon and Hagler wisely stayed in the more prestigious Middleweight class, and posterity apparently agreed with their decisions.

 

My father laughed out loud when I told him a majority of boxing minds on a forum picked John Conteh to beat Carlos Monon. My dad was an avid fan in the 70s

Conteh is given a pass for many poor performances and lauded as one of the best ever in his peak performances against non great fighters

 

I think the thing with Conteh was he was uber gifted in boxing and athletically overall he many times did just enough but it was clear of he pushed on the gas he could beat just about anyone he chose to. It is hard to argue with Monzon's consistency he had a helluva a winning streak like 70-80 fights without a loss and he would be a good pick over lesser Ltheavyweights but Conteh was one of the more gifted fighters.

 

Listen, if Suzie's dad says it's Monzon, it's Monzon. I wasn't convinced before but that made my mind up for me.

 

I was an avid fan in the 70's and I don't see Monzon beating Conteh ,imo if he felt he could he would have taken the fight, but when it was mooted and discussed he bailed.

 

I just don’t buy into these revisionist theories about Conteh. No one thought he was a great fighter in the 70s...and some people are picking him over the greatest middleweight of all time based on 15 extra pounds.

 

Yet he lost a lot or struggled with lesser fighters. While monzon never had an off night

 

You and your Dad are entitled to your opinions Suze.Conteh's record is misleading,imo he fell prey to the good times and injured his right hand,his money punch at the same time.Conteh may not have been great ,but he was very very good when in his pomp.Monzon wanted no part of him or Galindez.