contradicting info on fast/slow twitch fibres

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  1. Larson

    Larson Paenkhay Full Member

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  2. ralphc

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    Do you expect me to believe that a carping teenager who has accomplished nothing is an expert on high-tech training? There is a plethora of self appointed experts who have any number of quack theories which they justify with a lot of techno-babble. Apparently Oscar De La Hoya was dumb enough to hire one to get his weight down. We all saw the consequences.
     
  3. Ingar

    Ingar The Mean Machine Full Member

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    I just told you about techno-babble fitness "experts" in the other thread, my work is always result-oriented and based on research by athletes and coaches with great accomplishments.
    Why do you state something about my accomplishments when you know nothing about them?
    I can be short, I'm the country's top Running Back after only playing football for two years, I've scored 5 touchdowns in a single game, I play for the national team (got drafted after only playing the game for 4 months), Silver Medal in the European Championships. I run the 60 metres in 6.7 seconds (national top level), I am a regional champion in Olympic Weightlifting.
    Do you want me to go on?

    Like I said, I do my research and I apply it. I try to help people out here offering help on subjects I've read and worked alot with.

    If you don't want to apply it, fine. I don't care. You always come with stuck-in-the-past comments without anything to back it up by todays standards, and it is annoying considering that I spend time writing something to help somebody out.
     
  4. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    The bottom line is work out regimes are subjective. If you dont like modern methods and prefer to stick with methods that are for a FACT antiquated thats entirely your perogative. As long as your dedicated to your trade your always bound to get the results you put in.
     
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    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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  6. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Every boxer still uses those methods. Some have additional methods, but I've never seen a boxer that completely abandoned them.

    Ps. Calzaghe is a horrible example, he has zero power. It is said that he doesn't do much bag work either, horrible example either way.
     
  7. scurlaruntings

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    I dont blame him. I mean realistically how much value is there in bag work? Other than working on your physical conditioning its fairly useless spending hours on it. Pad work is superior in my opinion as is the double end bag. But at the end of the day its entirely subjective.
     
  8. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    It's sports specific resistance training. Of course it all depends how you use it, but that goes for every tool. Calzaghe would probably throws taps at it anyway.

    They serve a different purpose IMO but there is some overlap.

    True indeed.
     
  9. ralphc

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    Zero power? Why don't you ask Kessler whom Calzaghe doubled over with a body shot. Oh wait, Kessler is just a bum! How do we know he is a bum? Because he was beaten by a man who has antiquated training methods. :lol:
     
  10. RDJ

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    Calzaghe is known as a petty patter. He rained hundreds of slaps on Lacy for 12 rounds and still could not get him out of there. And for the record I wasn't the one who said anything about antiquated methods, au contraire in fact.
     
  11. ralphc

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    Then maybe you should be giving advice to people on a football website. Nobody is paying attention on this website, that is nobody who actually does any boxing. If the top boxers who have lots of money can't or won't upgrade to your version training, how can you expect anybody else to do it? Do you ever watch HBO? Many of these young boxers actually have to dehydrate to the tune of 10% or more of their body weight. When I was young boxers weren't doing stupid things like that. But back in those days pumping iron wasn't on the program.
     
  12. boxbible

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    If two identical twins fought each other, and they trained and ate equally, but one also did resistance training to increase endurance, strength and power, guess who would win?

    :patsch
     
  13. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    What's the other guy doing when his brother is pumping iron?
     
  14. boxbible

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    If all muscle fibre types are being used but some predominate over others depending on type of event, and because a boxing match may last up to thirty-six minutes in length, isn't a sound aerobic base is kinda important?

    I mean, in order to pump out repeated anaerobic work, a nice oxydative base would be of great help, wouldn't it? Otherwise, the creatin-glycogen-lactic acid cycle would soon collapse from the overload of a long fight...
     
  15. boxbible

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    Nothing extra...