Contrast Holmes' reign with Klitschko's.

weaver was a notorious slow starter I could see Brewster bombing him out early like he did Golota or Weaver could win late like he did so many times if Brewster was tired.

Cooney should have fought Weaver before Holmes he would have likely savagely KOed him in the first 2 or 3 rounds.

 

...'quasi one of your words one day...no-Tone-Loc-reference-getting-jerk-face.

 

Didn't say that simply noting how Holmes gets a pass for the most part while Klychko would be crucified for pulling the same thing. Alot of people still give him hell or put a ceiling on his atg rating for not fighting his brother while Holmes missed #1 contenders Doakes, Page, Coetzee, Thomas.

Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Tyson, Lewis, Klychko all have large contingents of fans who pick apart their reigns and heavily criticize them while Holmes who had more failings than any of them in terms of not facing #1 contenders and giving deserved rematches comes away almost entirely unscathed.

What was that? Coming from an Apartheid country?

 

Klitschkos are the very best!!!!!!!

 

I read every word, great job!

 

I don't fault ANY fighter for standing up for what they believe in. Be it Ali, Holmes, the Klitschko Brothers etc. I think a lot of people don't stand up enough for what they believe in these days and that is sad.

 

I am not sure which criteria do you use for 'rating' those title defenses, but no way the Chambers victory rates higher than David Haye. Chambers was more like just another title defense for Wladimir and nothing else. He was skilled, but too small to compete and wasn't seen as much of a threat to Klitschko. Plus he was already previously defeated by Povetkin in Sasha's 15th pro fight.
On the other hand, David Haye was seen as the biggest threat at the time and was actually Wladimir's biggest fight, and many people actually believed that Haye would win. It's actually a top level victory, together with Povetkin, Chagaev and maybe Ibragimov.

Also, I find it strange that you call Pianeta a "garbage", yet considering Ray Austin "not a bum". I think that it has much to do with you not being very familiar with Pianeta and the fact that Ray Austin was much better known in the US than the Italian. If you watch the fight closely, you'll notice that Pianeta wasn't exactly a "sitting duck", he was very accurate and he was actually trying and got to Wladimir a couple of times, although not being able to do anything very significant. Also, he landed at the higher percentage than Klitschko if I'm correct. On the other hand, I'm not sure if Austin even touched Klitschko once. Wladimir knocked him out in 2 rounds without throwing a single right hand.
Also, you hopefully changed your mind about Thompson II being "borderline" now considering that he went to knock David Price out twice and then win a decision over Solis, giving Pulev a decent fight in the process.

As for comparing their title reigns, you'd notice that almost all of Homles' title defenses were against American boxers, while Wladimir fought opponents from all around the world. Like someone already mentioned, professional boxing wasn't really a global sport during that time. It is realistically highly unlikely that boxers from one country or region were on the higher level than boxers from the whole world (including that same region) today. Objectively, that's almost impossible.

 

Considering that the topic was debatable prior to the Povetkin fight, I guess that now, since Klitschko defeated Povetkin and Pulev, there's no debate here.

 

Best ****ysis I've seen in this thread.. Quality as usual from Farmboxer :deal

 

He is just making up rankings in his head atsch I think Klitschko is going to be remembered more after he retires, and the haters will be slamming their computers on their desks for having him on the ATG list.