Controversial boxing opinions....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Drexl, Jan 3, 2008.


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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Mine -

    - Sugar Ray Leonard is top 3 p4p ever in terms of ability.
    - Prime Barrera decisions Pacman
    - Marquez already beat Pacman and will again.
    - Lennox Lewis is overrated and would lose to prime Foreman.
    - Mayweather Senior is a legend

    Just like to end this post by saying Boxing is the greatest sport in the world! :happy

    as well as adding after reading some tripe on this thread

    - Pavlik loses to Taylor.
    - Floyd Mayweather is a fraud and needs to fight the best fighters out there before getting any recognition at all!
    - over half of boxing fans have Ray Robinson at #1 p4p purely on the basis that if they don't they are seen to not know boxing.
    - Muhammad Ali is top 3 p4p of all time.
    - Vargas is one of the worst world champions of all time
    - De La Hoya deserved a draw against Fraud Mayweather
    - Pre 60s boxing wasn't as entertaining, skilful, or as a relevant.
    - De La Hoya is a fantastic promoter.
    - We need a dedicated boxing channel on television.
    - Mike Tyson is overrated!
     
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  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Undisputed Champion= 3 of WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO
    Unified Champion = all of the above.

    :good
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Spoken like a true Oscarsexual.
     
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  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I get great satisfaction out of knowing I'm not even a Dela Hoya Fan. :good
     
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  5. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Undisputed means just that Undisputed. you cant logically dispute that Joe isnt THE champ.
     
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  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    You CAN logically dispute Joe ISN'T the Champ, since Joe IS the Champ.;) You got the first part right, though..."undisputed" means just that - "undisputed".


    :good
     
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  7. Chunk

    Chunk tallaght boy Full Member

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    but he didnt so........:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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  8. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    It doesn't matter whether you or I dispute it. It traditionally refers to whether there are any other "champs" with belts who could dispute the claim because they are a "World Champ" as well.

    It is generally accepted that if a fighter loses belts he held due to sanctioning body politics, that doesn't count and they are still considered "undisputed" if they held the belts and never lost them to a fighter in the ring.
     
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  9. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    Traditionally, no.

    Ask any boxing journalist or old-timer and they will tell you that Undisputed means WBA, WBC and IBF; and Unified means a fighter who has unified any two of the "big-3".

    In other words, a fighter who wins the WBA and IBF would be "Unified WBA and IBF Champion" and would be introduced as such before a fight.
    If he then wins the WBC he becomes "Undisputed Champion" and doesn't lose that title until he is defeated in the ring.
     
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  10. Mindspring

    Mindspring Active Member Full Member

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    Butterbean surprises Golota in the 1st round, and Andrew goes down for the count again.
     
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  11. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    I think WW would beat Pavlic.


    After the hopkins fight where he looked like **** so it is hard Id give pavlic a bigger chance than I would ahve in the past if it happens in 2008. however the fight isnt likely to happen.

    But back when I was watching the Miranda fight, I was thinking this guy has such huge defensive gaps, WW would school him bad in a wide UD.
     
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  12. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Also I agree that the DLH-PBF fight was very close.

    PBF hardly schooled DLH like its talked about so much. Neither one presented a huge offense, it was mostly a defensive fight. DLH surprised me with his defense that fight and I think a draw would have been fair.
     
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  13. Dano

    Dano ATG Beltholder Full Member

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    I agree!:good
     
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