With Greb it is quite simple: We do have film of the men he beat and his actual record boasts a level of depth that is very probably unrivaled. A hectic swarmer whose demented ring conduct was quite clearly too much to handle for almost anyone in every weight.
BIG DEE HERE= Learn your boxing history son as Harry Greb is as good as any fighter in history of the game. He was the greatest middleweight who ever stepped into the squared circle. We have seen his opponents on film for years and we damn well know how good they were. He not only devastated the Middleweight dev. but destroyed every Lt. Heavyweght champion who would fight him as his big problem was there wasn`t any title on the line when they fought him. I have the guy rated in the top ten Lt.Heavyweights of all time because of who he beat. Jack Dillon, Battling Levinsky, Mike McTigue, Tommy Loughran, Jimmy Slatterey and Maxie Rosenbloom/ Harry Greb fought every great fighter of his time regardless of size or weight if they would fight him. Greb`s ring record stands alone as the single greatest body of work in boxing history bar none. Young man I suggest you study Harry Greb`s record before you make judgement of him and as far as the films go watch him on the speed bag it shows what guys had to deal with then. The bag he`s hitting isn`t a peanut bag so many hit today' but a big striking bag which is 13" or better and he making it a blur. To do that you really have to hit the thing hard like your hitting an opponent in the ring. KLOMPTON ARE YOU STEVE COMPTON??
I knew K-Man would surface to answer speculation with fact ... Greb is an all time top five pound for pound great ... his standing has been verified by the men he fought ... it is fair to ask if you do not know or are not sure but I think the question has been answered ,,,
Well said. And let's remember that white guys weren't the only ones who could be prone to avoid black fighters once they got a belt. See Jack Johnson.
I for one don't put all that much weight there. It's sparring. I think it highly likely that a prime Dempsey would have eventually went through Greb in an actual bout.