Cook to the boil, Weight cripples AAA

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  1. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    To be honest, I don't even want to talk about the circus that ensued during the other "co main event"

    Fortunately we had at least one real boxing match to enjoy tonight. Perhaps we can have some sensible discussion when the hysteria dies down

    Firstly, Nicky Cook was terrific tonight. I was really impressed with him. Angles and feints were used to perfection against the slower Arthur, allowing him to counter with ease. The footwork was spot on. The punches were timed correctly, always snappy, as he was always in perfect range - a product of good footwork. Perhaps he really has found his niche at this weight.

    But what of Arthur? He was so terrible tonight. Walking forward so predictably. No authority in the jab to discourage the smaller man. Slow and pedestrian. No stamina at all. No head movement. He didn't even up his work-rate when he was getting schooled or have any urgency, I don't know if he was physically incapable or lacking in desire. The only thing that suprised me is that he wasn't hurt too much in this fight - everything pointed to a guy being so weight drained.

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    Also, how did one guy score it by a single solitary point - how did you score it? :roll:

    Your thoughts on the fight?

    Where do they each go from here?
     
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  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    AAA has to go up to 135, I'm not sure how effective he will be there. Cooke boxed a great fight and won 8-3-1 in my book, I think he'll need to pick his opponents carefully at real world class. Great win for him though and nice to see the two lads so sporting at the end.
     
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  3. TFFP

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    Say we put most of this down to weight draining, can he really be a success at 135?

    Diaz, Katsidis, Pacquiao (probably out of reach anyway), Guzman, Marquez, Casa, Prescott dare I say it...its stacked

    :think
     
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  4. Droog

    Droog Member Full Member

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    Nicky Cook looked good at superfeather weight. Arthur has not looked good for a while now? Kevin Mitchell vs. Nicky Cook would be a good match up but where Arthur goes now I'm not sure?
     
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  5. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like cook at 130 he looked good and I think he can hold on to his title for a bit and make some money
     
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  6. TFFP

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    Dunky, boyd - lets here from you

    The Scots in general
     
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  7. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    yep, I think a good run at the Euro title might be the way to go. Earn a few quid, pick up a title and try to get into world title contention that way?
     
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  8. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Would they fight though? They are big mates and Mitchell said he was 'like a brother' to him on Bunces show.
     
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  9. TFFP

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    He would have to improve immeasurably to even beat Romanov on that showing. I mean there was no work-rate, no speed or snap in his work, no conviction at all. I'd expect it to improve at 135, but by how much?

    Arthur - Khan after each has had a rebuilding fight or two?
     
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  10. stuey

    stuey Never bet on England Full Member

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    i had cookie winning comfortabley, he was quick, cute, made angles countered superbly.

    that said AAA has always been a hype job, he is slow, not particularly powerful and worst of all does not move his head. been calling this one for ages....
     
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  11. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Arthur was normally a slow starter be he's gotten worse each fight and he should of went for Cook's ribcage like Luenvano did.
     
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  12. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    cook was awsome last night.
     
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  13. srb31079

    srb31079 themarvelmarv Full Member

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    Arthur was pish tonight, bottom line. Very disappointing performance. I knew he was always a slow starter and not the quickest but he was beaten in every department tonight. I don't even think Cook is that good to be honest.

    The talk in Arthur's corner towards the end of the fight was interesting

    "talk me up"

    wtf
     
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  14. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not going to fully comment until I've seen the fight...but it's no secret that the weight issue is a major one with AAA.

    That being said, lets not take anything away from Cook. Always thought he was a good little fighter, decent to watch and it seems that he got his tactics spot on tonight despite the 'one dimensional' jibes.
     
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  15. TFFP

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    If anybody looked one dimensional it was definitely AAA. He never changed what he was doing when it was clear as day it wasn't working. Just walked forward all night long, so slow and no urgency, and not enough work.

    Cook on the other hand mixed it up perfectly but not too much since the gameplan was inch perfect. Sometimes he'd step in and use his speed, other times he'd work off the backfoot and get out of the bigger mans way.

    Very mature performance.

    Other champions

    WBC - Vacant
    WBA - Edwin Valero
    IBF - Cassius Baloyi

    #1 contender for the WBO is likely to be Kevin Mitchell!
     
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