Cook to the boil, Weight cripples AAA

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TFFP, Sep 6, 2008.


  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cook looked good tonight. Busy, energetic, landed a sprinkling of accurate punches throughout the fight. Arthur looked pedestrian. I held the belief that Arthur's bigger frame would wear down Cook after the early rounds - this didn't happen.
     
  2. TFFP

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    If Cook really wants to be aggressive in his matchmaking and try to unify titles he won't get a better chance than now. I wouldn't blame him if he takes some easy defences, but it would seem silly...

    Baloyi is easily one of the worst beltholders in boxing, that is a belt there for the taking

    Valero is dangerous obviously, but pretty wild and agricultural. Cook could outfox him, but I wouldn't blame him if he doesn't fancy it just yet! :yep
     
  3. TFFP

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    That isn't true man. If you'd have watched Valero you'd realise that as he's actually progressed from the Value range of tomato cans to Heinz the KO win hasn't been forthcoming quite as early

    That is underrating Cook and overrating Valero in the extreme. That's not to say I necessarily pick Cook.
     
  4. AAA

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    Arthur was ****, from what I saw of it. To be honest, I am not overly shocked by the result. After the Foster Jnr fight it was as clear as day that Arthur was no longer a SF...blindingly obvious. Despite making the weight without looking like a terminally ill patient this time, it still didn't mask the problem.

    If Arthur doesn't move up now he's a fool. He'll never be top dog in the LW division, but there are some good fights to be had there, as long as he can still get them now.

    All credit to cook though, sounds like he put in an inspired performance, and it certainly seems a weight he can do well in.

    Arthur vs Khan as a make or break at LW is the way to go. Doubt Warren will do it though. He'll no doubt put Khan in with extremely average fighters for a while to bounce back, and to be honest...I just don't think Warren cares all that much about Arthur!
     
  5. TFFP

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    You are not aware of Valero's though, thats the problem. He hasn't got all his opponents out early, he got a bunch of low shelf cans out of there early.

    His two best opponents, Mosquera who went 10 and the Jap that went 6 or 7 if memory serves. They took more than one punch from Valero.

    No reason at all to think Cook would be out with a single punch. Completely overstating his power against good fighters.
     
  6. TFFP

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    How knowledgeable is Amsterdam?

    Well perhaps you should say what you mean to avoid confusion. When you say a guy will get knocked out with the first punch landed that sort of dramatic statement should be reserved for Amir Khan, otherwise its pretty disrespectful to a good fighter in Cook.
     
  7. TFFP

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    Usually when people say they "got knocked out early" on a boxing forum it means...they got knocked out early

    Especially when they are also dramatic enough to believe one punch is going to knock Cook out, despite all the evidence that would suggest otherwise from both fighters. Complete and utter horse **** :good

    I wouldn't even necessarily pick Cook in this fight and was merely speculating on possible fights anyway.
     
  8. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    AAA is ****ed at that weight and should have moved up long ago, a pale shadow of even a few years ago, so so lethargic, on the flip side you had Cook looking strong at that weight but cant be overly impressed due to how rubbish AAA was.
     
  9. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    combination of the weight and the fact Arthur is not all that good. We all saw what happened to Cook against a real world class fighter in Luevano.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Indeed. But Cookie has balls of IRON. He kept getting back up so we know full well he has the fighting spirit in him. Iv seen Cookie grit his teeth in EBU wins and just chomp on the bit and keep going despite being hurt. His a hungry fighter who is simply better than AA because he wanted it more. This is what happens when you have had smoke blown up your ass for the best part of your career. Weight aside the facts remain Arthur just simply isnt that good.
     
  11. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    yeah totally agree. As a Scot I can't be too disappointed, partly because could never warm to Arthur and felt he was too much of a big-head, also because I like Cook who has never has that red carpet treatment.
     
  12. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Mitchell stated on Buncey's show that he would never fight Cook.
     
  13. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As well as Cook boxed, and he really did well, I don't feel it would've taken a massive amount more effort from Arthur to have rallied to a knockout win in this fight.

    I don't even think it's quite so much an issue of weight-draining as of tactics. While Cook let his shots go in 2s, 3s, 4s, far too often Arthur was all 1s. Heavy shots for sure, but still single.

    A more committed attack, an earlier awareness that he'd have to get through a lot of incoming shots to drive home his own, and Arthur could've won this. But his usual slow start and a lack of fireworks cost him.
     
  14. Juanjuice4

    Juanjuice4 New Member Full Member

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    I was in the hotel Gym where AA was cutting his weight on Thursday afternoon, he was in a bad way trying to drop 7lb, didn't look healthy at the weight for me, really nice guy though. Hope he can come back at 135. also heard that Wayne Mc only spent 4 days with him for this fight!.
     
  15. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Before the fight Cook looked and spoke like a confident man. Arthur much less so. I'm no expert on those things but the vibes seemed strong.

    Lots of consideration has to be given to the weight issue. Can't understand why fighters insist on fighting weakened, it makes no sense to me.