Cooney Vs Holmes was fixed?

LOL

 

I believe it

The mafia wielded a lot of power those days

 

This was all just a whitewash to try to convict King but if you listen to the testimony, the deal between King (while certainly a shady character) and the mob never came about because the undercover agent didn’t come up with the money to make it happen (if you believe the testimony).

Note that while Franzese mentions King being involved with “the Cleveland (mob) family),” that family and the supposed direct ties to King are never mentioned by name. Why is that?

If you don’t want to spend the time to watch, at the very end he says he made $30K betting on the Holmes-Cooney fight because Cooney told him the outcome. Why would a guy who later claimed to be making $8M per week both with such a chicken feed bet? Why not several hundred thousand at least if it was a sure thing?

Not buying it.

 

This was conveniently left out of that clip

NY TIMES (Aug. 13, 1992)
In his statement and under questioning, Franzese made several references to fixed fights, contending that he had inside information on Larry Holmes's 1982 title defense against Gerry Cooney. But when Senator William Cohen, Republican of Maine, expressed skepticism about the fixes, Franzese seemed to back off. For instance, on the Holmes-Cooney bout, he ended up saying, "I'm not suggesting Cooney took a dive. He knew he couldn't win and passed that information on."

 

Could be,as regular fans we really don’t know which fights are fixed

 

Fights are fixed in the matchmaking. That's how fights are fixed.

If you can look at a card and pick nine out of 10 winners on it because it's filled with mismatches, it's essentially a card filled with fixed fights.

That's what most of these guys are talking about.

There were times when the promoter didn't have ties to any boxer on the card and his matchmaker would just try to put together evenly matched bouts on a show.

Now, Hearn or Arum is the promoter for all the prospects on the undercard, so the bouts are just record-builders for the most part. Everyone knows the winner ahead of time which basically means that it's a fixed fight.

We're just used to that being standard operating procedure now. It wasn't always like that.

When Antuofermo started competing in title fights, as Franzese says, the mob guys were told they couldn't tell them the outcome anymore. Because they couldn't purposely match him with guys he could beat anymore.

 

Franzese had some scheme with a fuel tax where they would cyphen pennies off the dollar each time a truck paid some tax -- I can't recall what it was. He came up with it, I believe, and he raked in like several million a week, which he then passed on a share to the mob. So they loved him. But it's also how he kind of bought his way out of going to jail. I think, at one time, they said his dad - who killed people - was going to be sent to kill him, which is when he started cooperating with the feds.

This guy telling these congressman he bet $30,000 on a fight might have seemed like big money to the politicians in 1992 when they were making like $80,000 a year. To Franzese, who was making millions a week, that was just pocket money. Cooney said I don't think I can win, so Franzese bet against him and wagered or won $30,000 grand. Okay.

He threw around a lot of Italian names in that testimony, and they asked him some weak questions like did you see Vito's movie? But, like you said, he didn't really say anything, either.

 

It's preposterous. If it was a fix, I doubt Larry would've taken all the low blows.

 

Didn't watch the video. It's patent nonsense though. The knockdown in the 2nd, the gradual softening upHolmes put forth, the very real effort on Cooney's part ( particularly the 3rd and 4th), The very real barrage of head shots finally putting an end to things in the 13th after several rounds of a one-sided beating......that's not how fixed fights look.

You want a fixed result? Go watch Ali-Liston 2., Marciano-Walcott 2, or Tyson-Seldon.

 

Or Wilder-Scott

 

I understand that version of fixed fights, but we can’t leave out fights that are scripted. You know like fighters who take dives during certain rounds

 

Gerry Cooney could not beat Larry Holmes back in 1982 even in his wildest dreams, he would need to wake up and apologize. Gerry likes to abuse the senior fighters, who are collecting Social Security. Larry was not old enough to collect back then. Cooney reminds me of The Grim Reaper Of Boxing, he collects very old souls, fears the younger ones. Conspiracy theories still abound, I do not buy that bologna on that fight, Gerry was outclassed and exposed by the greater man. Maybe he should have taken his case to the U.S Supreme Court and ask the justices to overturn the the referees decision to stop the fight, Ha Ha, Lol.

 

Franzese as Bob Lazar and his Area 51 tale.