Cooper vs Bugner.

No Bugner may of wasted a lot of his talent, but he still had a better career than Sir 'enry...

 

Perhaps so, however all too often Bugner turned up in the ring- his sole purpose to seemingly to pick up the moola, and being able to count it. Surely if you choose to be a fighter pasrt of the game is to take risks in there:roll: . He was basically just a proud to be there sort of fighter, who may have had some sort of 'talent' but seemed to go the edge of the world in an effort not to demonstrate it.

His finest performances were merely 'hanging on in there' ones against Ali and Frazier. The guy had the offensive desire of a tortoise.

 

i agree with my good pal "holmes jab" on this subject!

 

Another thing we'd agree on is that Boro are a laughing stock. Kiddie snatching, toxic mutants, who barely have any history as a football club worth speaking about. :good

(One Worthy Cup doesn't count...) :tong

 

The Ring nicked it...

 

I did read though,that after the ali fight,bugner went back to his hotel,and the next day was out there swimming and living it up,while ali was shattered and resting.What a waste of a god giving gift bugner seemed to throw away,if he had maybe bothered to really go for it,who knows how he may have turned out,i hate that when guys like him seem to not want to really give it 100%

 

I think the story alleges to fight two, and you forgot Bugner taking a swig of Champagne after doing each length of the pool.

 

Haha really,damn what a silly man,still he did have some fun im sure along the way,outside of the ring.

 

basically just a small club in yorkshire:yep

 

I'd question that; check Henry's career; multi-Euro and Brit belts over a three decade period. I'm not sure he EVER fought anyone with a losing record and that points win over a prime Zora Folley tops any win "heartless Joe" every recorded. The only name fighters Bugner ever beat were already over the hill. And I refuse to offer too much credit to a fighter who's best efforts were in losses, in Joe's case Frazier & Ali 1. Let's not forget Henry's bomb on Ali in a loss if we're going in that direction. If the Galindez-Ahumada fight hadn't been on the undercard of Ali-Bugner 2 at the closed circuit theater, it may have been the biggest waste of a boxing ticket I ever purchased. As far as Bugner goes: "never has so little been done with so much". He also bad mouthed Cooper a few years back for some unknown reason. What a overrated disappointment IMHO...

 

The fight was held in Kuala Lumpur ,at 9 30 am ,for US TV,an hour after the fight Bugner went swimming in the hotel pool,and as has been said drank champagne as though he had won.Mickey Duff who was involved with the fight was less than pleased at Bugners reaction to defeat,an account of it can be found in Duff,s excellent auto biography,TWENTY& OUT.

 

Foley was an excellent win but as a rule Cooper's problem was when he fought anyone (outside of Europe) resembling class, he got stopped or knocked out (Foley in their rematch LKO2; Ali/Clay LTKO5, LTKO6; Patterson LKO4). And like Bugner he suffered the odd really embarrassing defeat (Johnson LPTS10; Rischer LPTS10).

Bugner at least knew how to stay on his feet and after his pro debut it took Shavers in 82 to stop him once more. He showed against a near prime Frazier that he could when bothered compete with the very best, Cooper was an excellent trier, but never quite cut it at the top. Bugner could of, had he really wanted to.

I guess Cooper's work ethic and left hook with Bugner's abilities may of produced a fight to really compete with even the very best of the 60s and 70s...