cop that choc jc slams mundine

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  1. jb1

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    Calzaghe: Choc isn't a real world championAlex Brown in London
    July 20, 2007




    BOXING'S longest-reigning world champion, Joe Calzaghe, would rather move weight divisions than accept a fight against Anthony Mundine, whom he considers "not a real world champion".
    Calzaghe's stinging assessment will hit Mundine harder than any physical blow the Welshman could have unleashed. Mundine claimed the WBA super-middleweight title, vacated after Mikkel Kessler's ascension to super champion status, by defeating Sam Soliman in impressive fashion in March. He had hoped to fight the winner of the Calzaghe-Kessler world title bout, set for November 3 at Cardiff's Millennium Stadium.
    Calzaghe, though, said he would prefer to move up to the light heavyweight division for a possible shot at Bernard Hopkins, rather than face Mundine. "I don't see a fight with Mundine happening," Calzaghe told the Herald. "All I'm thinking about at the moment is beating Kessler, and once I do that, I'm looking for big fights - maybe in America.
    "Mundine isn't really a world champion anyway, not if you don't take all the bull**** politics and super champion stuff seriously. Besides, Kessler has already travelled to Australia and beaten him, so why, after I beat Kessler, would I take a lesser fight?"
    If the rest of the boxing world share Calzaghe's opinion, Mundine may be hard-pressed to attract high-profile opponents in the future. Geographic isolation, a relatively small pay-per-view audience in Australia and Mundine's 22-3 record all appear to be impediments to the Man luring big-name opponents.
    Mundine's saving grace may come in the form of Kessler. Though the Dane has indicated a reluctance to fight Mundine again - having won a unanimous points decision over him two years ago in Sydney - WBA rules stipulate that Mundine, should he still hold his title, is entitled to a shot at Kessler within 18 months of his ascension to super champion status. Kessler also holds the WBC super-middleweight belt.
    "Mundine's a good fighter, but he's not a big name in the world of boxing," Calzaghe added. "He's not a big name outside Australia. For me, it would be a backward step."
    Calzaghe's suggestion of shifting weight divisions, and perhaps venturing to the US, is intriguing. The one criticism made of the 35-year-old over the course of his career has been his unwillingness to fight away from home. Indeed, he has fought outside the UK only twice in his 43-fight career, and never beyond Europe.
    Should Calzaghe go abroad after the Kessler bout, the interest of a curious American public is sure to be piqued, and coffers will presumably overflow.
    "I've fought everyone there is to in this division, and I've beaten them all," he said. "I'm looking for new challenges after I beat Kessler. Hopkins is a possibility, but we'll see how it goes."
    In the meantime, the boxing world is eagerly awaiting the showdown between the two undefeated super-middleweights. Kessler is widely considered the only fighter capable of dethroning Calzaghe. "I will put everything into this fight," Calzaghe said. "I will be unbeatable."
     
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  2. Dr Gonzo

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    Wow talk about a reality check for Mundine.

    With that said, i cant wait until Kessler crams his fist down Calzaghe's throat.
     
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  3. jb1

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    jc will win :)
     
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  4. prasake

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    i dont think joe has said anything that the boxing fans dont know anyway - truth is, a fight with mundine holds very little for joe and at this stage of his career, he is only looking to fry big fish and get massive paydays and exposure - mundine cant offer this.
     
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  5. Dr Gonzo

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    Yeah fighting Mundine would be high risk low reward for JC. With that said i dont think i would enjoy seeing him fight Hopkins either. JC vs Chad Dawson would awesome on the other hand
     
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  6. IrnBruMan

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    He's right in saying Mundine isn't a big name on the world scene - that's why non-Australians only know him as the guy who mouthed off about 9/11, and the guy the feather-fisted Ottke KTFO, even though that was 5 years ago.

    He's never fought in the US - the closest he came was when he fought Pompey in Canada on an undercard.

    Truth be told, I think he's avoided the US - Mundine is happy to be the big fish in the little pond, knowing he'll get $$$ for fighting nobodies down under and sounding off about what he's going to do to keep the publicity happening.
     
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  7. kel

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    Yeah JC looking for the big fights :-( Sakio Bika and Manfredo.

    That said, i agree a Mundine fight would not be on the cards if he beats Kessler. Hopkins is the natural choice in the states
     
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    "Though the Dane has indicated a reluctance to fight Mundine again"

    Extremely poor journalism...

    Kessler has offered Mundine the fight twice and Mundine could have said he wanted purse bids twice since they fought. Both times, Mundine did not want any piece o Kessler. That journalist should be fired fo incompetence.

    Regarding the JC-AM fight - if JC beats Kessler, then Calzaghe-Mundien would make zero sense since Joe just beat the guy who clearly beat Mundine. If Calzaghe looses then maybe they could fight to see who is no. 2. But if Joe wins then Mundine is clear no. 3 and thats about it.
     
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    Agreed - it's like that article some time ago that said Mundine lost his WBA SMW title to Siaca and then regained it vs Soliman - that suggests Kessler had somehow lost it inbetween, instead of being elevated to superchamp status.

    I think JC will be moving up to LHW if he beats Kessler, or retiring if he loses to Kessler.
     
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  10. Dr Gonzo

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    i'd like to see them both move up no matter the outcome - breathe some new life into LHW.
     
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  11. Hmmm

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    Dont look good for mundine at all. The only way he's gonna get a big fight now is for him to sacrifice a massive paycheque :S
     
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    Yeah both will move up no doubt.

    Briggs and Green better get a move on and get a shot at titles before these 2 superstars take over the LHW division.
     
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  13. teke

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    It's good that JC is talking about him.

    Mundine is a high risk low reward fight.
     
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  14. Marcus

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    I knew you would see this as a positive Teke, and you are right, at least he is talking about him, even though its smack talk :bbb
     
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  15. teke

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    I remember reading an article from him about Ottke in similar fashion in 2001.. Anyway Mundine just has to keep beating decent fighters and he'll get his title fight one day.
     
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