Corbett - Jackson Draw a myth ...

Sullivan as a dissipated, fat and semi -retired champ could afford to give Jackson the go by. Corbettt as a young ,up and coming challenger would have found it much more difficult to do snce he had gained the title Corbett had absolutely no intention of risking his crown against even a past prime Jackson.

 

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Wrong! It is a fact that Corbett and Jackson meet and talked about a rematch with Corbett's title on the line. Corbett as champion dictated the terms. Jackson did not want to fight in New Orleans ( where Corbett beat Sullivan ) or Jacksonville ( where Corbett beat Mitchell in a title defense )

Back then the live gate meant far more for prize fighting.

The above is the truth. You won't say it's not so. Now go off tangent and try to change the topic as it fits your MO.

 

Corbett did not look in Jackson's direction until the black man was safely back in Australia.He made demands that the fight be in the south where as Jackson put it he feared for his life should he win.

 

being ahead on points in a finish fight is less usefull than a chocolate teapot(which can both hold water and be eaten).

edit: i'm kind of looking like a corbett fan or a jackson detractor in this thread, neither is true.

 

I think Jackson's leg injury is being greatly exaggerated here. Im no corbett fan, jus sayin.

 

I don't know how bad Jackson's ankle was but I do know he agreed to fight Corbett in September 1894 provided it was," in the next 3 months," Jackson wanted to fight over 20 rounds . A distance that would suit the nearly 5 years older man who was already past prime. Jackson agreed to fight for the purse stipulated by Corbett and for a $10,000 side bet the site to be named by Corbett.

Corbett was not present at that meeting which was held in Chicago.
The National Sporting club offered a $15,000 purse for the fight Jackcson agreed and offered Corbett the choice of having an American referee of his choice.Corbett refused the fight, stating he would only fight at the Duval AC Jacksonville Florida and it must be a fight to the finish.
W.W, Naughton of the influential Police Gazette there- upon accused Corbett of avoiding the match,another trade paper, "The Referee" said that Corbett's dealings with Jackson,[ whom they described as physically deteriorated,] were" underhand".
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http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1928&dat=18940912&id=TK4gAAAAIBAJ&sjid=gmkFAAAAIB


https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...ton says Corbett is avoiding Jackson&f=false

Jackson said he did not want to fight "south of the Mason Dixon Line".

Corbett wanted the fight to be held in Jacksonville Florida at an AC of his choice.

My knowledge of American geography is pretty basic ,but I believe Florida is considerably south of the line?

 

By all score cards Jackson was ahead? Can you post them here?

Corbett would have the home crowd anywhere in the USA at that point in time. I have never read a report saying a black fighter was assaulted in the south in the 1890's.

More accurately those who put up the money for the fight would make sure Jackson wasn't touched. Jackson by the way was a well liked fellow. In many ways opposite of Jack Johnson. Jackson should have taken the match. In boxing the champion almost always has a say in the venue. That's the way it works

 

It is but back ( 1890's ) then Florida was a sp****ly populated state full of swamps. Hardly the image of a plantation lifestyle.

Its like Lennox Lewis saying I'll come back for $100,000,000.00 If Jackson wanted the fight, he could have taken it.

As stated the live gate meant a lot for prize fighting. Corbett was well known in Jacksonville.


http://lwd.dol.state.nj.us/labor/lpa/census/1990/poptrd1.htm

 

If it was sp****ly populated, why would Corbett want to fight there?
Bottom line Corbett didn't want the fight, and he knew Jackson would not fight in the deep south so he had his get out.


What had Charlie Mitchell done in the four years prior to his challenge of Corbett that merited a title shot? He retired for 2 years after their fight had an abortve comeback of 1 fight and then retired for good.
Corbett fought in Jacksonville precisely ONCE ,indeed that was the only time he fought in Florida.

 

The underlined is sillly, no blacks had ever fought for the heavyweight title if Corbett had been man enough to face him Jackson would have been the first!
There are plenty of reports of blacks being lynched and right up into the 20th century.


John L Sullivan commenting on the up and coming fight between Corbett and Mitchell.

If Mitchell wins the Corbett fight, said Sullivan, he won’t

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fight Jackson: “Mitchell is like I am…. He would not fight any one but a white man.” It would be different if Corbett wins: Corbett and Jackson had fought a 61 round match in 1891 which was declared no contest because both boxers were too exhausted to continue, so Corbett, said Sullivan, “will have to fight him. The black fellow can fight. I ain’t saying he can’t; but, I say, let them fight among themselves. But Corbett has fought him once, and if he wins he will have to fight Jackson, or give up his claims to the championship.”





Here is Parson Davies view of Corbett facing Mitchell instead of his man Jackson.

"As to the Corbett-Mitchell fight, Jackson’s manager also expected Corbett to win but suggested that Corbett had been avoiding a rematch with Jackson, who “should have had preference to Mitchell, since the Englishman “has no claim to the championship of any country and lays no claim to any such title,” while Jackson was the “undisputed champion of Australia and England…. Peter is badly handicapped,” continued the manager, “in the matter of getting on engagements for the world championship. His color is one point raised against him. Sullivan barred him on that account and now Corbett gives Mitchell the first call on the flimsy pretext that he has a personal insult to wipe out with Mitchell.” Unlike Sullivan, the manager believed that if Corbett did defeat Mitchell there would be “no telling” if he would be willing to take on Jackson."

The link below shows Jackson speaking bitterly about Corbett and his demands

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1894/06/07/#text

 

Actually, Mollineaux v Cribb featured a black man fighting for the world title.

I know you were probably only referring to the gloved title, but dont forget, if you were, if Corbett had faced Jackson when he should have then outside of Corbett himself, Jackson would have been the only MAN not just black man to have fought for the world title.

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t is also relevant that Peter Jackson was actually recognised as the World Champion in most of the press in Australia and probably England also.

 

The underlined is correct.

Corbett chose to fight Mitchell who was champion of nothing and nowhere rather than face Jackson.