Corbett v Kovalev 20rds Modern Gloves

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Old Jim v The Krusher over 20rds with modern equipment ,we'll give Corbett a year to adjust to conditions.


    The result?
     
  2. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Young Corbett a bit small for Kovalev, same goes for Young Corbett III.


    You see I just read the Title of the thread.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    As I said ;
















    Pathetic.
     
  4. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I would 100% bet on Corbett beating Kovalev. Especially if he doesn't get one year to adjust to 20 rounds. Jim would be too slippery and slick for him.

    Isn't it weird imagining a modern fight with the HBO graphic on the bottom right corner saying: Round 18 of 20
     
  5. Reason123

    Reason123 Not here for the science fiction. Full Member

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    I'll pick Corbett by decision especially since he'll have a year to adjust. Corbett was smart and it would be interesting what he could come up with today. Strategy wise.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes I suppose it is.I made it 20rds to give Corbett parity.
     
  7. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is definitely a good fight.

    Kovalev has some good wins at light heavyweight, and is definitely not too far off the class of some of the guys who beat or troubled Corbett.

    Another interesting point is why would Corbett want the extra 8 rounds. His problem was that he could lose concentration and run in to the KO punch not that he would get outboxed. I think the longer fight might actually suit Kovalev who is not poorly conditioned like some of todays modern heavyweights.

    Why are so many people so convinced that Kovalev cant go the 20 rounds?
     
  8. mcvey

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    I'm not convinced any modern boxer cannot go 20rds the supposition that this is so is nonsensical to me.
    It's like the posters saying Tua couldn't go longer distances because he would gas out,this is based on what?

    If you're contracted to fight for 20 rds ,you train for 20rds ,it isn't rocket science!
    I just stipulated 20rds to pre-empt the Corbett crew saying,"well over a longer distance Jim takes him into deep water and drowns him",and to forestall any accusations of agenda.
     
  9. reznick

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    Modern fighter can go 20 rounds. They're human just like the guys who did it 100 years ago.

    But maybe they would need to pace themselves a bit more? I don't have the experience to say.
     
  10. janitor

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    I am going to say Corbett based on what I know.

    Might be interesting to see Kovalev at cruiser though.
     
  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Interesting matchup, since you give them a year to adjust.

    Even if Corbett doesn't hire the best S&C coaches that money could buy (he would), he's absolutely going to abandon the terrible training and nutrition from the 1890s as soon as he reads his first health magazine. For starters, he's not going to needlessly cut his water intake, which will have repercussions for durability, stamina, etc. That's an easy fix, too. Drink more water, and bam. Instantly improved ability.

    Add to this that Corbett will have modern sparring partners. With an entire year to prepare, Corbett will alter his style into something that fits modern rules better. But he'll still have the 1890s skillset as a base, which will make him extremely awkward to fight, because Kovalev has no experience with people who fight that way. This will be magnified by Corbett's reflexes and speed.

    The potential game-breaker on the other side, though, is that Corbett came from an era with only about ~10% of the number of active fighters competing today. Even with all the other stuff on his side, Corbett may just not be in Kovalev's league in terms of raw talent.

    Hard to say, though.

    Might turn into the world's ugliest fight, with a roided-up Corbett using his reflexes and his era's inside fighting knowledge to try to jab-and-grab Kovalev. Especially if there is a raw talent gap. It would certainly be in character for Corbett to do so.
     
  12. janitor

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    Somehow I don’t think that Corbett would try to emulate the modern fighting style.

    He was a maverick in his own era, and he would likely carry that mind-set over to the modern ring.
     
  13. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Depends what you mean by emulate. I think he'd pick up anything that would complement his existing style. Which is a lot, since the game has changed massively.
     
  14. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's the thing with these threads, the oldies aren't credited with the ability to adapt, but moderns are.

    For instance, if someone said Tua or Lewis couldn't do 26 rounds like Willard did in the Havana heat, people would jump all over them saying that Lewis and Tua could tailor their work rate to the amount of rounds.

    Yet the old timers aren't credited with the ability to adapt to changes in technique. That's a real double standard.
     
  15. janitor

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    I think that it is more interesting how the game has not changed to be honest.

    A boxing manual from Corbett’s era, or a couple of years after, is indistinguishable from one today!

    You have to question what a modern boxer could throw at Corbett, that he would not have seen before.