Corbett v Kovalev 20rds Modern Gloves

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mcvey, Apr 29, 2016.


  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    This isn't true, though.

    Manuals from Corbett's era are very different from today.


    EDIT: Here are four--

    https://archive.org/details/physicalculture00fitzgoog
    https://books.google.com/books?id=FVYCAAAAYAAJ&dq=boxing&source=gbs_navlinks_s
    https://books.google.com/books?id=A-fXAAAAMAAJ&dq=boxing&source=gbs_navlinks_s
    https://books.google.com/books?id=dH5HAQAAMAAJ&dq=boxing&source=gbs_navlinks_s
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Actually in the Tua ,v old timers threads Mendoza has stated that Tua would run out of stamina against the old guys ,so I think you have it a*se about face.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I see Corbett fighting like Ivan Calderón did.

    With his speed and reflexes it's gonna be hard to match him punch for punch. At HW he's clearly undersized and anyone with a wallop might just end his night.

    Put him at LHW and it's kinda like guaranteeing he'll never be undersized.

    The question then becomes how slippery is he in the face of constant onslaught and that is something we can't really answer right now.

    He kept the retired alcoholic off him, he sparred with Jackson for 40 rounds or something daft, he outboxed Fitz but left an opening, he schooled Jeffries but relented under pressure.

    A hard question isn't it. Should we just assume he can dance away no matter the skill of the aggressor?

    Right here's where I'm at. I think Corbett is the quicker of hand and feet and will beat Krusher to the punch. However Kovalev has good feet and if he can cut the ring off I'm nowhere near convinced that James can survive multiple exchanges up close. I'm not even convinced he can survive a solid overhand right countering his jab.

    Neither are proven against the other style.

    Sergey vs Ward will be a huge indicator.

    Right now I'm going with Corbett on points but if Kovalev does beat Ward I'm gonna change my opinion.
     
  4. janitor

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    There is a boxing manual written in 1902 that is still published today.

    It is not sold as a historical curiosity, but as an actual boxing manual.

    You could pick it up at Waterstones a couple of years ago.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You've said there is one book ,which you haven't named,the other poster has given 4 examples to the contrary
    Who says it's sold for instructional purposes?
    Very old books on boxing are often reprinted,I've several myself what does that prove?

    If you wanted instruction on boxing today,why would you not by a modern book? Or are you saying there has been no significant advancement in technique since Corbett's time ,something with which Jack Johnson disagreed with by the way, he referred to himself as the bridge between the old timers and the modern era,called Sullivan "just a brawler" and Corbett the forerunner of modern boxing,notice the word forerunner as in precursor.
     
  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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  7. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Having never seen a reliable film of Corbett, I'm forced to assume he'd knock Kovalev out.


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  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    They are both boxing manuals.

    They cover the basics of training.
    They cover the basics of footwork.
    They cover the basics of defense.
    They cover the basics of punching.

    They use pictures to illustrate technique.


    Someone posted these 4 specific links saying they are different from todays manuals, and I was wondering how?
     
  10. janitor

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  11. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Delete this thread
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Why
     
  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Maybe he's hoping to redirect some of the traffic to his latest Darcy thread? :think
     
  14. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The boxing manuals all illustrate basic boxing techniques. These are more or less relevant in any era. Basic boxing is basic boxing. Not knowing and understanding these techniques is what you have today in the hwt division. Size has replaced true boxing skill. Boxing fans are more impressed with size than the ability to fight. Boxing is a skill that is developed by long hours practicing defensive and offensive techniques. Blocking, parrying, slipping, bobbing and weaving, ducking and countering to vital areas of the body. That's great boxing.