Corbett vs. Spinks and Byrd

How can you possibly know that?

 

Because when you ask them to give a breakdown of an old fight film, they have generally missed everything significant.

They are also not particularly proactive in seeking out the best footage available.

 

Chris Byrd beats Corbett
Michael Spinks beats Corbett
Leon Spinks from Ali fight beats Corbett, 80s-90s Leon Spinks might lose
Cory Spinks probably loses

 

So if their take on a fight film doesn't agree with your interpretation - it must be because they have missed everything significant? Wow - can you sound any more condescending?

 

No, if they miss that a fighter does certain things, then they have missed something significant.

Nothing condescending about that, just a statement of fact.

 

That he compared raw footage of an exhibition (under odd conditions to allow filming), with a highlight reel shows so much bias you can practically dismiss their judgement.

 

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Not much science here

Corbett would easilly destory him

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Chris Byrd would maul corbett in a couple of rounds. spinks jinx probably Needs only one round. even leon spinks walks Right through him.calling corbett a defensive Genius is misleading. he fought during an era where fighters stood up straight , chin high....Swinging like windmills.

being able to take one step to the left or Right would have been considered "catlike mobility" back in the day. he´d get killed vs a modern fighter.

if you want to see what happens when a guy from his era fights a modern Heavyweight, watch the bert cooper vs Joe savage fight. thats reality Baby.

 

Joe Savage was robbed They should have let it go on for another 45 rounds till he got his second wind.

 

and dont Forget: savage was 41-0 41 knockouts at the time he fought cooper. what was corbetts record 11-4. pathetic.

 

Look Corbett looks pretty light on his feet and he has some cute parries. But I see nothing that would give a guy like Byrd problems.

If you want to say "Well, Corbett was the father of those techniques, other guys just took them and ran with them" then yeah, I could go with that. Chris Byrd in 1897 is a lot less scary than Chris Byrd in the 2000's, and that's in large part due to the wisdom and experience that guys like Corbett passed down.

But if we're comparing "our" Byrd to the 1800's Corbett, then there's nothing that Corbett does that Byrd does not do (and better) and those parrying techniques work a lot better when the other guy is a breadstick and lighter than you. If he tried that with 235lb Tua he'd be picking his head out of the back row. Byrd himself would be a monster in those days, 215lb to Corbett's 180, 6'2 to Corbett's 6'1 and reach wise as well. He's considered a light puncher nowadays with (iirc) 45% KO rate ... Corbett had 25% in a third of the fights. So if Byrd had the power advantage too I think James would be in deeeeep ****.

 

A fighter who is constantly moving and using angles, that does not present you with a stationary target for more than a few seconds, is going to give anybody problems.

So is a fighter who is very unpredictable generally.

Corbett uses feints as well as any heavyweight that I have seen on film.

I think that he would have given Byrd fits.

I also question whether Byrd adding muscle mass, is going to help him against a lighter man of similar dimensions, who is playing him at his own game.

 

yes, they are using similar technique…...but that says very Little. consider: a man 500 years ago putting a letter into a bottle hoping that someone would find it and a man today writing an E-Mail. YES both are basically doing the same Thing: Using means of communication.

but the Level of sophistication does differ a Little wouldnt you say?? same here. yes, both are Boxing.....but simply on totally different Levels.

 

I think Byrd would have walked right through his nothing punches and beaten him like he owed him money.

Weight classes exist for a reason. Corbett is a small light heavy today who was a light hitter even in his time. Byrd went toe to toe with monster punchers like Vitali, Tua, Wlad, Povetkin and Ike and even held his own in some instances. It would be an unfair matchup.

 

Corbett was almost invariably the less er puncher in his key fights, and I am sure that he came up against much worse than Byrd.

Frankly you have to ask how Byrd would fare chasing down a smaller more elusive fighter.

Byrd would probably have been a light heavyweight in Corbett's era.

He was a fine technician,but you almost seem to be trying to twist this into him being some sort of wrecking machine!

His accomplishments against bigger heavyweights are very impressive, but he did it by being faster than them, and I doubt that he would have been a wrecking machine at cruiser weight.