Corbett's Uppercut

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  1. Red Revolving Pepperman

    Red Revolving Pepperman New Member Full Member

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    It's time for Dr. Pepperman to give a little test to the forum.

    Here's a clip of part-time vaudevillian James J. Corbett demonstrating his fearsome uppercut, from about 0:40 to 0:47:

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    Here's a clip of Freddie Roach, an actual boxer and trainer, showing the real way to do it:

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    What are the differences between these two demonstrations?
     
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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Roach is a far better trainer than Joe Goosen and also better than Corbett`s trainer, though I think he trained himself.
     
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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Different rules, different techniques.
     
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  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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  5. Red Revolving Pepperman

    Red Revolving Pepperman New Member Full Member

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    One embarrassing clip at a time. First, let's break down the one where Corbett looks like an extra from a bad kung fu flick.

    Not this stupid argument again. Did you even watch the Roach video?
     
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  6. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    That's an impressive uppercut from Corbett. It's not an inside uppercut like Roach is showing. Corbett obviously threw those too.

    His punch is not thrown at full speed or power in this clip, but it really shows impressive form for a long range uppercut.
     
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  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    It looked like that uppercut was an intercepting type of punch used when the other guy swung wide as it either landed or blocked the punch. You would need quick reflexes and speed to pull that off the way Corbett is showing it.
     
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  8. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting that Corbett at 6'1" was slightly bigger than Tunney, but
    Tunney's 76" reach was 3" longer than Corbett's.
     
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  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Corbett's uppercut in the exhibition footage and the tired Kownacki's 10th round uppercut both look pretty unimpressive to me.

    Corbett's infighting uppercut was fine for what it was. Would’ve been more impressed by his technique if he’d lowered his level before throwing the punch. But presumably he realized that Fitzsimmons was leaning on him and harmless, so he was able to drop his arm like that instead without risking much.
     
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  10. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    "Impressive form for a long range uppercut"? I honestly didn't see anything impressive about the form--what am I missing?

    Did you also find the body blow that he threw right before the uppercut sequence (starting around :34) impressive?
     
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  11. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. FrankinDallas

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    Mr Fancy Pants Corbett did exactly what Roach said NOT to do. He raised himself up with the punch, leaving himself wide upen for a counter. His chin was way up in the air. Reminded me of Buster Douglas' illfated uppercut vs Holyfield and we know how th at turned out.
     
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  13. Red Revolving Pepperman

    Red Revolving Pepperman New Member Full Member

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    Well spotted.

    I understand why you guys need to divert attention away from Corbett’s embarrassing display by hassling Tyson Fury.

    Did Tyson Fury ever say that fighters should punch themselves in the face? Of course not. Fury made a mistake, but got better.

    Corbett proudly showcased his technical ineptitude in an instructional film.
     
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  14. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually, I think both Corbett and Fury are awful. Not a fan of late 19th century/early 20th boxing or most modern boxing.
     
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  15. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I doesn;t really matter because in that context he wasn't vulnerable.

    Lennox also did it against Vitali
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