Corner men that helped or hurt their fighters.

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  1. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    This is true. How many corners have blown it by counseling caution in the final stanzas, only to have their man come up short. Steward was practically begging Lewis to put Tyson away.

    On the other hand, Meldrick Taylor's excitable Duva corner pushed it too far by clamoring "We need this round! We need this round!", prompting the proud Philadelphian to toe-to-toe suicide. A cool but firm exhortation to win the round from the outside but not take any chances might have made the difference.
     
  2. tommy the hat

    tommy the hat Active Member Full Member

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    Ken Norton's corner in the 3rd Ali fight told him before the 15th round that he had the fight won and to coast. That advice ended up costing him the fight.
     
  3. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    The best corner has a sense of "family" with the fighter, in my opinion.

    The Goldilocks approach seems right: not too shrill, like Meldrick Taylor's team against Chávez, nor too cold, like the Petronelli brothers, who seemed much too aloof when Hagler desperately needed answers against Leonard.

    I happen to like Richie Giachetti's style. He'd give you the cool, "OK, this is what's happening...", calling for this or that shot or combo, but he could certainly crank up the energy, like in the 15th round of Holmes's defense against Michael Spinks: "There's no tomorrow! There's no tomorrow!" doing his utmost to revive his faltering champion.

    Holmes himself considered him like a crazy brother sometimes, and a pretty good trainer.
     
  4. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is interesting, I would like to hear others opinions.
     
  5. JCP

    JCP Active Member Full Member

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    Some might say Garcia may have ended margaritos career by not throwing in the towel in the pacquiao fight
     
  6. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Teddy Atlas was/is horrible. Aaron Snowell was a total hack. Richie Giachetti was bad. The worst Ive seen though was Oscar Saurez. That guy turned everything he touched to pure ****.
     
  7. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Myth. At best Dundee bout Ali a few seconds.
     
  8. Terhon

    Terhon Member Full Member

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    The McClellan - Benn fight problem was the ref, the corner should have stopped it, there was obviously something wrong
     
  9. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ace Miller with John Tate was no marriage in heaven. And I always thought for every good thing Ace would do, he'd subtract from it with a bad thing. At the end, I lean towards hurt more than I would say benefitted. Especially when you consider the other trainers available at the time to fill the role.

    Similar thoughts about Volbrecht's work with Corrie Sanders.
     
  10. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is a myth but Dundee did give Ali smelling salts in between rounds probably unaware of Britsh boxing rules which forbid use of any stimulant, this should have gotten Ali disqualified which would have been one of the biggest blunders in HW history.
     
  11. Germanicus

    Germanicus Active Member Full Member

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    Cus D'amato with Patterson, Torres and Tyson.
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Good Post!:good
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Paddy Fitzpatrick did an excellent job in Groves last fight ,telling him to just work behind the jab in the last rounds ,dont needlessly expose yourself to risk by trying to knock him out.
     
  14. jdempsey85

    jdempsey85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    From a old ring mag i read a guy was out on his feet going back to the corner his trainer then lit a match and held it behind his back,he recovered and won
     
  15. Skins

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    Lou Duva telling Meldrick Taylor that he had to win the last round against Chavez. then jumping around on the apron like a jackass distracting Taylor during Steele's count and giving him an excuse to stop the fight