corrie sanders vs jack dempsey

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  1. janitor

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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The people who can capitalise on this limitations, Wlad wont give them a fight.
    Hence no fights with Briggs, Chisora, Pulev, Malik Scott, Fury and Povektin.

    Brewster hadn't won a fight in 2 and a half years when Wlad rematched him. He was retired from an eye injury and his team advised against the fight. He turned up for a payday nothing more. He quit when he felt he went far enough. Its a meaningless win.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wlad was kept away from Briggs when he was a belt holder. Manny fed him easy fights such as Austin and Brock.

    Wlad is already heavily criticised for fighting Wach and Pianeta. A fight with Malik Scott would be a step up.

    The issue here is that Sanders beat Wlads ass in such a lop sided manner that luck played no role. Wlad just wasn't good enough.
     
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    Brock wasn't a mandatory and Stewart wanted no part of any unification fights with Briggs , Maskerv and Valeuv. I dont remember Briggs wanting no part of a fight.

    Wlad has a punch, what does that make him. You need to accept that Wlad got his ass handed to him.
     
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    This is an interesting matchup.

    Styles make fights and frankly this isn't the greatest stylistic matchup for Corrie. Sanders has always been better against big fighters that want to come to him and bang. Smaller guys that bob and weave and fight out of a crouch have been a bit more tricky for him to deal with - ie - hit cleanly. I'm thinking of his early fights against SA opposition and against Tillman, for example. Now, if you take into consideration that Dempsey had serious power, it could end badly.

    That said, I don't think that Dempsey would have faced anybody like Sanders either. Somebody with the size of Willard, with actual skills, with rapid fire combinations and a thunderbolt left straight. So it's not so cut and dried.

    It also depends on which version of Sanders we're talking about. His younger version had excellent stamina and good footwork and liked to rack up points with the jab. The older "wlad" version of Sanders had less stamina but more power, and I also think he picked his punches better.

    Colonel Sanders does make a good point, Corrie was never particularly good at infighting which might prove the decisive factor.

    Frankly I'd have to favour Dempsey overall, particularly if he brings it to close range and manages to drag an "older" version of Sanders into the later rounds. But Sanders knocking his head off with a counter left would come as no great surprise, either.
     
  9. HOUDINI

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    One of the greatest fighters who ever lived vs a nobody. Generally the ATG wins in such match ups.
     
  10. JLP 6

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    I just took a quick look at Corrie to refresh what I have seen of him. Maaaaaaan please!

    That lazy straight up style, with no lateral movement, no head movement, no shoulder roll ain't gonna get it done. He was lucky to have made a name for himself in this bum of the generation era. His only saving graces were good speed and good countering but that is not going to be it enough when Dempsey sets the speed of the fight to 100 mph instead 60 that Corrie the passenger is cofy with. Corrie was out of shape and once Demspey landed one hard and smelled blood....Corrie's chin or a lucky shot is the only thing that gets him passed the 5th round. If Corrie beats Jack it would be a different version of Corrie than we have ever seen.

    Man, I wish we had Dempsey recorded in Hi-Def so we could really see how crazy he was!
     
  11. Hookie

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    It ends by KO. If they fought 3 times, I think all 3 fights would end by KO. I also think that after 3 fights the results would be 2-1 (2) for one fighter and 1-2 (1) for the other.

    I'll focus on a fight that Sanders wins by KO... just because.

    Sanders starts fast and hurts the much smaller Dempsey early. His size, reach, speed, power, and southpaw stance are a big factor. Dempsey rocks Sanders a few times but Sanders fires right back and wins round 1.

    They come out for round 2 swinging and Sanders is getting hit less and really getting the upper hand. Sanders drops Dempsey but Dempsey gets right up. Sanders 20-17

    They slow down a little for round 3. Dempsey lands a few good shots but Sanders makes good use of the jab and eventually starts landing big left hands... Sanders KO3. Why not?
     
  12. HOUDINI

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    Why not? Sanders is a bum.
     
  13. JLP 6

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    This is lame. Give me a list a good/great heavyweight southpaws period that Corrie fought or anyone else for that matter.

    Threads like this waste time and bandwidth. Someone pulls some contender off the shelf and now we are believe that because he is tall, fat, and slow i.e 6' 4 225 and a southpaw that now he somehow KO's Jack frickin' Dempsey in 3 rounds. Geeez. Post this stuff somewhere else. What is up with people today? It's like people can't see anything but stats.

    Sanders starts off fast....Really? Against Jack Dempsey who has 26 first round KO's?!? Is Dempsey the guy you want to shoot it out with?
     
  14. HOUDINI

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    JLP.....very correct. Seems that few understand what great boxing ability is all about...sad really that some are so ignorant of what it takes to be an all time great fighter. Dempsey is an example of one and this was and is understood by those that know what they are talking about. Sanders was a very limited minor contender who became prominent because of the highly watered down nature of boxing. Bums are considered good fighters, great all-time ability is not understood or recognized.
     
  15. beast boxer

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    I cant believe you actually need to ask that question. Obviously Dempsey would win, and pretty much straight away.