Corrie Sanders vs. Jack Dempsey's top opponents 1917-1927

I can see tunney going 1-1, taking the rematch.

 

Perhaps Dempsey should have met Wills and made this conversation more interesting.

 

So what exactly is the purpose of this thread?

We take fighters that Dempsey fought over a 10 year long span and put them all against one version of Sanders?

Classy posting, Mendoza.

 

Vitali is a strange one regards to power as the majority of his stoppages are down to accumulation rather than initial power. Whilst Rahman was heavier, I'm not sure how much of that was muscle and how much was a poor diet.

If you saw Sanders in his pomp I apologise for the earlier remark.

It's another point as we, as to how much of a wasted talent he was. Would he have ever beaten Lewis or Vitali, even with training? We'll never know I'll guess but I'm not sure he would ever have bettered his career in his own era.

Don't get me wrong, individual for individual I do favour Sanders, even over Tunney. But over a career, I just don't see him beating everyone put in front of him.

 

Good posts all round. I enjoyed reading them.

I definitely agree with Mendoza regarding his promoter. He simply couldn't get the big fights. But quite apart from that, it was a golden time for boxing in America. They should have shipped him over there, stuck his nose in a gym and crammed his schedule like Tyson. He could have been knocking out a bum a month, so long as he did it on TV. Eventually through sheer numbers someone would take notice. Volbrecht was a pretty good trainer, if one did what he said. I have the impression - and this is conjecture - that Volbrecht found it hard to keep Corrie in the gym.

I believe that he had it in him to produce a performance sufficient to beat Lewis and Vitali, given sufficient motivation and dedication and training. Certainly the raw materials that a great trainer would have had to work with were there - speed, power, accuracy, willingness to take one t give one, punch variety etc - maybe the only attribute that he was missing was a really good chin.

Then again, I may be succumbing to that tendency that sometimes overwhelms us in Classic, namely the wish to redraw a fighter according to our wishes. Ring rust was a real thing in Sanders' career, and some of his more woeful performance (he still won, but looked poor) were after long peroids of inactivity. I guess that's part of who he was.

 

I'm referring to the South African Heavyweight that beat W Klitschko. My bad for any misspellings.

 

Honestly, getting KO'd by Nate Tubbs is probably what put Sanders' career back in the 1990s.
Sanders was 23-0 and 28 years old at the time and rated as one of the division's serious up-and-comers. Losing to a guy like Nate Tubbs (a nobody unless you confuse him for his brother) by KO at that stage of your career is going to set you back badly.

 

I am not a fan of making extravagant predictions for fighters who have one big win.

You always have to wonder if the one big win had more to do with the victim.

I would never pick James Douglas over another all-time great heavyweight, just because he beat Mike Tyson.

I view that as Tyson's baggage and nobody else’s.

Yes Sanders win over Wladamir Klitscko is incredible, but it is his only signature win.

The rest of his record does not suggest that he would have had a sustained period of consistency, against legitimately world class opposition.

 

How do you guys see Sanders reaching Tunney?
The much lighter, elusive, and quicker Dempsey could hardly touch him.

 

We see this thread from time to time.

My favourite fighter lost to this bum, so everybody else would lose to him.

Judge fighters on who they actually let beat them, and who they beat.

 

A prime Sanders was aggressive and fast and brought the fight at range. He was not an old, step slow Dempsey trying to shorten the distance.

 

Which fight would you recommend to see him in his prime?
He always seemed like a boxer puncher, not much of a stalker and definitely not a swarmer.

Also are all these matchups one offs?
Like is it a prime Sanders in each fight?

Because I think prime Dempsey beats Tunney.