Corrie Sanders vs Rocky Marciano

Ohh, my bad! I was trying to refrain from disseminating any more unflattering Marciano clips but since this is a special request I'll see if I can throw something together.

 

Marciano would beat that 225 lbs fat ass to a pulp. I'm sorry but nobody with chicken legs for arms and a tub of lard for a torso is going to beat a hard hitting 185 lbr that was always in supreme condition that fought hard every round for 15 rounds.

 

once rocky lands on that fat belly in round 1 its all over.

Corries wild swings miss and hit the ref who happens to be wlad, sparking him clean out easily in seconds.

 

Sanders had supreme physical gifts....elite handspeed combined with frightening power in both hands, and an awkward southpaw style.

When did Marciano fight such an opponent during his career? Rock would be giving up tremendous physical disadvantages that may be too difficult to overcome

 

His left was considerably better but he could hit with both hands

 

Charles had elite handspeed and frightening power in both hands. Just not the awkward southpaw style but he was 10x more skilled than Sanders or most heavyweight champions for that matter.

 

Charles had frightening power in both hands as a light heavyweight....not a heavyweight. By any means

His handspeed was elite in the 40s, but by 1954 it had diminished quite a bit. Still pretty fast, but nowhere near the handspeed he displayed on film against Valentino in 49.

By 1954 Charles had lost some of his reflexes, he pushed with his jab more, didn’t snap his right hand like in the 40s..his legs definitely had slowed down..still a very good fighter though!

You forgot the part about Charles being only 5’11 185lb while sanders was 6’4 225lb with an 80” reach!

 

Look,

I am the biggest Marciano fan here besides rockyjim. I live next to marcianos hometown, I’ve met his family, I boxed at his cousins gym...

Marciano was an ATG p4p fighter, one of the best ever. Against men in history 190lb or below, their isn’t one man I would pick in a trilogy over him.

Against modern athletic skilled powerful superheavyweights, he just has too many disadvantages to compete. It’s too tall a task for any 185lbers in history

 

A hard hitting light heavyweight isn't that far behind a hard hitting heavyweight. If Golovkin can hit as hard as heavyweights then a hard hitting light heavyweight/modern cruiser should be able to. After all, Charles killed someone in the ring.

Still faster than Sanders, which is what matters.

Incorrect. Charles was more like 6'-6'1. Sanders was more like 6'2". Sanders was 225 at like 25% bodyfat. Charles was 190 at sub 10% bodyfat. They had the same lean body mass which is what matters.

 

Not all light heavyweights carry their power up to heavyweight, look at bob foster. Charles needed attrition to knock out most of his heavyweight opponents, he didn't have one punch knockout power against heavyweights with good chins.

No. Sanders had faster hands than the version of charles who fought marciano. watch the films

no you're incorrect. Ive spoken to charles close friends and read his book. Charles was 5'11.5" round up to 6' if you like. Definitely not 6'1. Also, Sanders was 6'4, not 6'2.... and had a longer reach than Charles. Don't know where you got 6'2 from.

You have no idea what either Sanders or Charles body fat percentages are

 

Charles kod Sam Baroudi who subsequently died ,Baroudi was a middleweight.
Baroudi himself was involved in an earlier tragedy when Newton Smith died after a fight with him.
If big punching lhv's could hit on a par with big punching heavyweights,Bob Foster would have made it as a heavyweight!

 

Bob Foster had plenty of power at heavyweight. He lost because he got beat by better fighters and couldn't really take their power. Bad chin.

No he didn't. A heavyweight doesn't have a good chin if they get knocked out by one punch.

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I tell ya, it was a pain in the ass getting a 30 second clip of Sanders actually punching. On top of being slower than Charles, he isn't nearly as active of a fighter.

Bull****. You have a conversation with the friends of a man that's been dead for 43 years and ask "Oh btw how tall was Charles?" Do you really expect to have anyone take you seriously. People are willing to claim anything on the internet to get fame lmao.

Here he is with Joe Louis who was 6'2-6'3:

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Now here's Joe Louis next to a guy that is commonly listed as 5'11.5" but many thought was 5'10":

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Now you can do one of many things. 1. Argue that Joe Louis was shorter than 6'1. 2. Argue that some crazy camera angles make Charles appear taller (not plausible) 3. Argue that Frazier was shorter than 5'9" or 4. accept that Charles was 6'-6'1.

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Wlad is listed at 6'7 but is really more like 6'5. Saunders is clearly around 4 inches shorter here.

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Yes I do.

 

I have come to similar conclusions. I'd not write him off against anybody, but let's be honest he'd be working uphill with the really skilled big boys.

Sanders at his best was a boxer-puncher with good footwork, and he was quite happy to dance around on the outside piling up points with his jab. It was only later when his aversion to doing roadwork caught up with him that he fell in love with his power and tried to blast guys out early.

I have to favour Sanders here, the same as I think he'd have the edge on Dempsey (heresy! The cries of horror!) simply because he combines excellent skills, power, and speed, with a large physical frame.

However, there's something I'd like to add. Where Marciano in particular might have a good chance of doing some damage is up close. Sanders had a disturbing habit of clamming up on the ropes and letting his opponents work. He'd then try and catch them on a counter or flurry back a volley of shots. It might be OK to play that game with your average journeyman - quite another to let a little pitbull like Marciano tee off on you.

 

There are some real gems in this thread... real gems.

 

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Joe Louis was 6”1.5”, so 5’11.5” looks perfect. I’m right


That clip you posted doesn’t help you....Charles wasn’t active at all, notice how he pushes his jab rather than snap it like he did in the 1940s, his reflexes look like they move in slow motion. Sanders definitely had faster hands than the 54 Charles