Corrie Sanders would beat Joe Louis

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Corrie Sanders a "Skilled" puncher? atschatschatsch o dear. the only thing he was skilled at was showing up to fights with a roll of flab around his midsection and being the first at the golf course every morning.

 

:good:good:good:good EXCELLENT! BRAVO!!

 

Primo Carnera was not past his best. Primo was 28 years old in the prime of his life off a 3 fight knockout streak and would knockout top 10 ring magazine contender Walter Neusal right after fighting louis.

 

Only bigtime Vitali fans hype up Corrie Sanders to a superhuman level to boost vitalis legacy when in reality, sanders was nothing more than a one hit wonder journeyman. Sanders is a 3 round fighter at best. Sanders has little to zero technical skills, HORRIBLE stamina, bad chin, mediocre defense, very little experience, he is very off balance all the time, and he is very unproven at a world class level. B Baer and Galento would knock him out just like Nate Tubbs and that clubfighter did a year ago.

Here is a stat for you. Corrie Sanders cracked the ring magazine top 10 just 2 years out of his 13 year career. Shows you how highly thought of he was. Everyone knew what he was. A B level one hit wonder journeyman. Without that fluke KO over wlad, he no one would even know his name. he is lucky wlad even gave him a title shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIYyBWbHfvo

 

I love threads like this where both sides are biased to differing degrees because the fighters are so alien to one another.

Also, Q's never ending hatred for Sander's always gets me going.

 

HE Grant,

How many of Sanders fights you seen? If seems like Louis had trouble with fighters with fast hands. I think Sanders hand speed for a heavyweight is elite level. In fact most boxing experts of the 1990's thought that Sanders was the fastest handed heavyweight out there. Watch his stuff sometime.

If Farr, Pastor, Walcott, and Conn could give Louis trouble with their hand speed, then so could Sanders. The thing is, Sanders hits much harder than these guys. I think these are points an objective person needs to agree on.

Joe Louis did not get hit much at all by Max Baer. His slower less talented brother managed to land on him, and knocked Louis down. If not for a fluke summer sault over and outside the ropes where Louis landed on his feet, Buddy Baer could have been the new champion. I say because a bad fall outside the ring is tough to recover from.

Yes--Galento, Buddy Bear and Schemling could hit. And they floored Louis when they landed. In fact lesser puncher like Farr and Conn stunned Louis. It a good thing the internet was around in those days because if they were the " the internet chin police " would be on Louis case big time. Louis' chin is not significantly better than Wlad's. In fact, I think Louis was floored by more people than Wlad was. The thing is some who floored Louis had had journeyman like skills, which allowed Louis to come back and land his best to end the match.

Regarding Galento, Buddy Bear, and Schmeling,only one of these three had good skills, and that was Schmeling. What happened when Louis meet a good boxer who could punch that landed hard on him first? He lost via Ko because Louis could not recover from the blow, and was out boxed due to slow feet, a low guard, and a failure to adapt in the ring. I think Sanders is certainly more skilled than Galento and Buddy Bear, so if he lands something serious first, he most certainly has a chance for an upset...espeically if Sanders lands his best stuff first. I think that is the point of the thread.

 

I believe Louis was knocked down 10 times (vs Schmeling, Braddock, Galento, B. Baer, Walcott & Marciano). Wladimir has taken the count 12 times (vs Pannell, Puritty, Sanders, Brewster, Williamson & Peter).

 

Mendoza, interesting post but if you are going by Louis' one near prime career loss than surely you can do the same with Sanders ... to me he was far more like Ingo than any other former champ I can think of ... I know he could be dangerous at times but to me he was such a disappointment, such wasted skill ...

 

Sanders is terribly overrated. I'mnot even that impressed with his destruction of Wlad, who is also very overrated, but who now has the skills/temperament to smash someone like Sanders.

Sanders would beat Louis though.......................over 18-holes :good

 

Thanks He. As I said before you are one of the better posters here. If you ask me to pick between Louis and Sanders in a fantasy match, I am taking Louis. But the upset certainly could happen here.

Louis to me is more vulnerable to skilled punchers than say just about any other all time great for four reasons.

1 ) He did not have a top level chin like Ali, Holmes, and quite a few others did.

2 ) He was lacking on the fundamentals on defense, and was too easy to hit in comparison to most ATG's.

3 ) He would not have a height or reach advantage over any ATG's from 1960 to present besides Frazier.

4 ) He had mechanical and slow feet and could be out boxed by speedy boxers types.

Louis certainly was a great puncher. He was deadly with combinations. When Louis had his man hurt, they did not escape. Louis also had true 15 round stamina, and had a whale's heart in the ring. But I think he had vulnerabilities, and to me was more upset prone than most ATG's.

 

Among the ATGs I would probably give Sander's the least chance against Tyson and the best chance against Foreman. Louis would place somewhere there in between, possibly closer to Foreman.

 

I think Sanders would have his work cut out, trying to beat Farr and Buddy Baer.Sanders had bad basic technique he punches with his head high up in the air is really a one handed puncher and lunges with his shots which are long and often leave him overextended.

 

Mendoza's point is Sanders' v.s. Louis and I understand and appreciate his argument ... I just feel Louis , in his prime, was harder to hit and faster of feet than the Louis of the Walcott fights and a hell of a bad match upfor most anyone ... that's just my thoughts ...