Cotto and Shane vs Pac

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  1. Boxing Fanatic

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    They do it for money, plain and simple.
     
  2. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    five div champ because he won a split decision over de la hoya? the one who got his ass handed to him by a former lightweight? please

    who has been fighting bigger guys? cotto has you idiot.

    Cotto has fought Quintana, Urkal, Judah, Mosley, Gomez, Margarito, and Jennings

    PBF fought Baldomir, Judah, Mitchell, de la hoya, and Hatton.

    who fought the bigger guys? having pbf's balls in your mouth is clearly affecting your brain
     
  3. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you have eyes 116-112 for floyd is the right score in a midget size ring i'll say he is a 5 division champ alright.
     
  4. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    cotto is naturally bigger dumbass. Again how answer my question u *****. Tell me how many times Floyd outweighs his opponent since you think weight is sooooooooo important.
     
  5. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Have Klitchko have been fighting bigger guys too!:rofl:rofl:rofl wlad have dumb *****. Hey Oscar have been fighting bigger guys too oh gosh. oh yeah everyone can fight smallers guys except floyd. I mean Floyd made a living beating up guys in lower divisions. i mean floyd just uses his big frame as an advantage. Pinoy writer ur soo smart for bringing it up!
     
  6. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i love bashing trolls!
     
  7. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cotto's weight advantage
    Jennings +.5
    Margo =
    Gomez -.5
    Mosley =
    Judah +1.5
    Urkal +1
    Quintana -1

    pbf's advantage
    Hatton +2
    dlf -4 (at 154)
    Baldo -1
    Judah +.5
    Mitchell +1.5

    not much difference if you ask me.

    of the 34 times cotto has fought, he outweighed his opponents 16 times with 2 fights not having a record. does he ALWAYS outweigh his opponent? not really. pbf has outweighed 14 of his 39 opponents. not really that far from cotto.

    Bottomline, cotto has fought bigger guys at 147. all of pbf's opponents at 147 would pale in comparison to margarito alone. cotto is not given much slack because he has already fought bigger guys. while pbf has only fought de la hoya. cotto is fighting a legit welter in clottey while pbf is fighting a legit lightweight in jmm.

    do i really have to go on?
     
  8. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you just prove my point that weight DOESN"T MATTER dumbass. Read your first post again. I own you. not to mention those are NOT the fight night weight but the weigh in weight u lamer. again, Cotto outweighs most of his opponents and you have the balls to say he is proven and not floyd. You are a dumb piece of ****. I bet ur work is real credible. yea Floyd who have been boxing since he was 2 went to olympics fought 90+ fights in amatuers and competed in 19 championship fights can't pursue a "smaller" guy but oh two division champ cotto can. Cotto who doesn't even come close in resume can. Cotto who is naturally bigger can right? Did i sum up ur stupidity yet?
     
  9. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i'm going to bed don't feel too embrassed for being a jackass. You'll get used to it. Bashing trolls is my new hobby. Going to bed bash you tomorrow ******.
     
  10. theunderdog

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    ahh the stupidity. i said cotto has proven he is willing to fight bigger guys and pbf hasnt. did is say cotto is a more poven fighter? nope. did i say cotto is better than pbf nope.

    the thing you were asking is why pbf is getting more **** by wanting to fight pac compared to cotto and mosley. my answer was that cotto and mosley have proven that they are willing to fight bigger welters, while pbf has not yet done that.

    this is all very simple really. i enumerated **** because you asked me to. you said cotto always outweighs his opponents, i proved that this wasnt really the case. you claimed pbf is always outweighed, i proved that this was not the case.

    you know the real reason why pbf is getting so much ****? it's because the world knows he is better than mosley and cotto. he just does not have the balls to prove what the world already knows. fans want to see him compete with cotto, mosley, williams, margarito and other fighters who may hold a weight advantage over him so he could display his immense talent and beat these fighters. that's why he gets **** for fighting jmm and maybe pac. it's becuase people expect more from him. if you still do ot understand, then it is no longer my responsibility to tell you. i have done my part
     
  11. hmm

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    hmm says... here's the article.. This is when talks of coming out of retirement were swirling and Shane called/phoned him to get confirmation by challenging him.. This is how I first knew that PBF would really come out of retirement.. First paragraph. Mayweather says "at least for now", hence my post saying "not yet known." The article may or may not do any justice but was still interesting nonetheless. The video interview I saw about this is better but a biznatch to find again cause it was a few weeks back.. I think 13th Round had it but I can't find it at the moment.

    http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/5169/2009-04-14/Floyd-Mayweather-Jr-Told-Me-No-Says-Shane-Mosley
     
  12. Powerman55

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    You're not very intelligent are you? It's all about NATURAL WEIGHT and natural bone structure.

    Marquez is going to have to pile on about 15 POUNDS of MUSCLE onto his tiny skeleton to come up to Mayweathers weight. That's why fighters don't usually bring their power and speed up the weight classes. Because their smaller bones are weighed down by oversized muscles.

    When you have small bones and large muscles you can't get the leverage to throw power punches and you also lose speed.

    Mayweather going to be trim, fast and healthy and at his natural weight.
    Unfair advantage. UNFAIR.
     
  13. tliang1000

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  14. ThaWiseJester

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    This is real simple Floyd dont want Mosley or Cotto.. They want to fight the top guy and thats Manny,why go after Floyd if Floyd dont want it??
     
  15. tliang1000

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    read this thread and get educated about weight.