Cotto awarded Fighter of the year :

I'm wondering if you realize Shane Mosley is older than Oscar De La hoya, and Miguel Cotto is younger than Floyd Mayweather.
Shane Mosley was damn near 40 years old when he fought Cotto.
And as far as the Zab Judah win goes.
Floyd Mayweather is criticized for beating Zab Judah.
That's not fighter of the year material

 

Just because Shane "was" good doesn't mean he was good at the time. Shane is a shot fighter. Deal with it.

 

Remember folx, it's just peoples opinions

 

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He was 36, and had fought FAR better in his last 3 fights than DLH did. What had DLH done? Beaten an extremely crude Mayorga, been humilitated by Hopkins, and got an early Christmas present against Felix fecking STRUM of all people. Mosley had destroyed whatever was left of Vargas and had looked brilliant against the same guy that all the Floyd fans were saying had given such hell to Hatton.

Does ANYONE doubt that Mosley is a better boxer than Hatton or DLH? I dislike the fact that Cotto is getting more credit for beating an older Mosley than Wright got for beating the same Mosley twice and with greater dominance, but Mosley is nevertheless one of the top 5 boxers in the sport, and Cotto beat him.

While I admire what Pavlik has achieved, I still wouldn't rank him as one of the top 3 boxers of the year. Miranda is solid but not a p4p top 20 boxer, and Taylor had either lost or looked mediocre in his last 5 fights. I WOULD say that Pavlik is the "most exciting prospect of the year" for me, in that he has the vulnerable chin, exciting style and bonecrushing power to be a fixture in great popcorn fights for years to come.

 

Floyd Mayweather is fighter of the decade if Cotto is fighter of the year.
Just to show you how far ahead Floyd Mayweather is of the rest of the active fighters.
He is criticized for fighing Zab Judah.
Other fighters are praised for beating Judah, and it's considered one of their best fights on the resume.
He is criticized for fighting Oscar De La Hoya because of the age difference .
Other fighter are considered great for beating a fighter almost 10 years older.

 

I'd say that's fair enough. Cotto has impressed me the most this year, but over the last 7 years Mayweather has done more that any single boxer.

Since I didn't criticise him for either picks, I don't have to defend those criticisms. HOWEVER, one does need to make a distinction between ring age and biological age. Mosley may be older than DLH in the history books, but I know which one of them looks the older man in the ring.

 

Pavlik deserves this award more than the others.

He was an underdog in both Miranda and Taylor fights, and finished both of them of in the 7th round. Both fights could be fights of the year in terms of excitement.


Cotto got a gift against Shane in many peoples opinion. It wasnt a dominant victory like Pavliks fights. And floyd fought and beat Hatton, a damn good fight, but it wasnt a suprise to anyone that he won.

 

I'd hardly call Pavlik's victory over Taylor dominant, considering he was nearly knocked out and the fight was fairly close going into the 7th. Impressive? Absolutely. Dominant? Certainly not. As for Miranda, he's the kind of person someone of Pavlik's calibre should dominate; what that fight told us was just what kind of calibre Pavlik is packing.

 

Mosley has been looking like he may be way past it for a while now.
He showed flashes of his former self in the Collazo fight, and everyone thought he had found the fountain of youth.
Mosley looks older to me in the ring than De La Hoya does.
I followed Mosley's career from almost the beginning, and what I see now is a fighter that wont always get off in time like he did when he was younger, and wont always get out of range in time like he did when he was younger.
Oscar De Lahoya's style is more fitting for an aging fighter.
Shane Mosley really has a young man's style.
What I mean is if you take a fighter like Cotto he will be affective for a long time
A fighter like Mayweather on the other hand will slow down with age, and he will be easier to beat.
With that said I think even though Mosley is the better fighter. Oscar De Lahoya is the better "old" fighter.

 

Howabout I replace Dominant with Decisive. Sure pavlik got knocked down but at the end of the night there was no question about who was the champion. Compare that with Cotto running the last rounds against Mosley, similar to Oscar vs. Tito.

And considering Pavlik was the underdog against Miranda. Just like he was against Taylor, I think he stole the show this year.

 

Ricky Hatton was never a true welter, Hatton was out on his feet vs Collazo. Then left to return to 140. PBF looked spectacular vs Hatton but that is an Illusion created by what in reality was a mismatch. The average fan however bought into all the hype and the fight was well promoted but its all really just the old razzle dazzle with PBF showcasing his rare ability againts someone that was really overmatched. Cotto brings excitement and drama to boxing the kind that reminds the real fan of whats so exciting about this sport, Pavlik does the same. Cotto and Pavlik, these two really brought the excitement to boxing this year. Either one winning Fighter of the year is fine by me. You can have all the talent in the world but the game needs that excitement that thrill to keep it going. PBF is a talented tremendous Champion and he does what is in his best interests who can blame him?
but for fighter of the year its not enough to just vote for your favorite.

 

No, he hasn't. Back in 2004, people thought Wright had closed the book on Mosley. Now we know there were several other chapters.

He basically did to Collazo what Hatton was SUPPOSED to do, but couldn't.

You think DLH looked younger against PBF than Mosley did against Cotto?

Do you think, were they the same weight, DLH could beat Mosley now?

 

I think the decisive card can be played either way. I know I'd make Cotto a bigger favourite in a sequel than Pavlik. Furthermore, I think the Mosley of today is better than Taylor is, was and ever will be.

He might have stolen the show, but he didn't win the award for me (actually, his performance against Taylor did win my "Nigel Benn award for dramatic Rocky movie-esque gutsy comeback").

 

But we are talking about 07, not anything after it so a sequel isnt relevant. Pavlik clearly won the fight despite a setback during it. Cottos victory is tainted, cause he avoided the fight for the last few rounds. I do think he got a little lucky with a win.

That may be true but the award for "Fighter of the year" spells to me as the person who made the biggest mark this year. Not the most talented or gifted fighter. Pavlik came out of nowhere and tore up 160, whereas the rise of Cotto was kinda expected for me.

I guess it all depends on your definition of what makes "fighter of the year". You say he stole the show but didnt win the award?

If Pavlik didnt do what he did this year, than I would give the award to Cotto possible. But like i said pavlik was more memorable.