Cotto beats everyone on Floyd's Resume

no, I'm leaning on 154 oscar to beat cotto, and prime hatton at 140 would have been a pick em fight.

 

but floyd fought hatton at 147 remember? cotto would beat hatton, he has the style to give hatton fits. hatton at 147 is not as good as he was at 140.

the oscar that fought floyd was the same guy that roach had said that could not pull the trigger in training. oscar just went forward with jabs and nothing else against floyd that night and gassed around the 8th round. i'm confident that the 147 cotto version would smash that version of oscar.

 

Obviously, I agree. Cotto does beat everyone on Mayweather's 140 & 147 resumes. I think I'd probably back him to edge Oscar at 154 as well, by the time of the Mayweather/Forbes fights Oscar was pretty toothless.

 

I think its also safe to say that floyd will beat everyone that cotto beat..

But the DLH fight, i think it would be close...Oscar may be shot but he still has the size advantage and could still box him to a decision...IMO

 

here is the thing. cotto would not have a chance to fight oscar, baldomir or the others that floyd fought but he already beat the same fighters floyd had fought. whereas floyd has the opportunity to fight margarito back then, obviously we know he can beat him, but chooses not to fight him.

it's like saying cotto could not beat pac but floyd beats pacquiao. floyd can actually prove it but wouldn't.

 

right about hatton, forgot that was 147. but disagree with you on oscar, he couldn't pull the trigger with fighters who mainly use their speed and footwork in an elite level. Cotto is there to be hit and that version of oscar is still good enough to use jabs and box to a decision. And we are talking about 154 oscar who ktfo mayorga and dispatch him easier than 154 cotto

 

i think roach referrenced those comments while training oscar and not during the actual fight with floyd. roach actually felt that version of oscar that he trained for floyd could be beaten by a lightweight version of pac.

even without roach's comments, the way he fought floyd that night. he was actually just moving forward straight with his jab without trying to cut floyd effectively. by round 8, he was spent and floyd just teed him off from there. also by that time he was merely a part-time boxer fighting once every year since the hopkins fight.

i feel that the version of cotto who fought margo, mosley or pac would win against that version of oscar. remember that he was dominating margarito for 6 rounds before succumbing to his pressure which oscar already lacked that time. cotto also has been pac's most competitive opponent since marquez at the higher weights. cotto is also the faster fighter out of the two and in his prime.

 

DLH would knock the **** outta Cotto who IMO was never a great fighter, at his best you might allow yourself to call him very good but definitely not great.

 

Prime ODLH destroys Cotto. The DLH of 2007 was not close to prime DLH though. Cotto would have a good chance against that toothless version of Oscar.

 

DLH produced 1 last great effort vs Floyd at 154, that version beats any version of Cotto who like I said before, was never a great fighter.

 

Nah, even tho it should have been a UD & not a SD it was still quite a competitive fight vs FMJ & Cotto is nowhere near Floyd`s level, Cotto woulda been lucky to win 2-3 rds vs that version of Mayweather & styles make fights & Cotto is there to be hit by a motivated Oscar producing 1 last hurrah.

 

Great? :huh

Throwing arm punches for 6 rounds, then gassing?

That was not a great effort at all, both men looked like **** in that fight.

That fight made me sad, sad because I knew the old Oscar was long gone. And so it came to be.

 

But he didn't produce 1 last hurrah. He no longer had the snap to hurt his opponent, nor even really get to him. If he tired vs Cotto, which he would as the Floyd fight was not fought at a high pace, Cotto would not be happy to pitty-patter him the way Floyd did, he'd be going to the body with ferocity. Oscar would get hurt late in that fight, I feel sure of it.

 

would you call moving forward with just jabs and gassing in the late rounds 1 last great effort? cotto has not lived-up to expectations but he is a great fighter in his own right. he fought everyone there is to fight unlike some great fighter that we know that avoids them.

 

You have to factor in quality of oposition, both men cancelled out each others best work for long spells because of the quality of both men, I thought it was a great technical fight, it was Floyd`s stamina & cleaner punch accuracy that split them, especially in the last 3rd.
DLH was never the most accurate puncher, even in his prime, he used flurries to try get credit from the judges when faced with better technicians (Whitaker, Hopkins, Mayweather) but less so vs guys like Trinidad or Vargas, he`s a smarter fighter than given credit for IMO.