Cotto-Canelo is the biggest fight to be made in boxing, GGG can wait!

You are misquoting the WBC, which goes along the lines of my complaint in the Roach thread about ignoramuses and the constant dissemination of misinformation.

As far as your prediction regarding relative money, you have nothing to base that on. Are you trying to say Cotto-GGG doesn't even do half a million? What about the Mexican TV money? Cotto can probably negotiate that portion as well vs GGG, but obviously not vs Canelo.

 

ggg vs froch.. if ggg wins its open season at 168 we all want ward.

 

Get over myself? I just enjoy prodding people who start slinging personal insults into a total froth from time to time. Noone thinks boxing is going to become perfect out of nowhere, I just have little patience for people who start getting nasty over defending the status quo.

Yes, what kind of fan wants the best to fight the best in the actual weight divisions? To at least have the Championship level of the sport actually have some sporting integrity. Its a total travesty amirite?

 

Cotto vs Canelo > Cotto vs GGG

 

Cotto-Canelo may in fact be the biggest fight that can be made at the moment outside of May-Pac2.

But I said what I said because I also know something about math. I might pick the wrong guy to win a fight fairly often, but my business case ****ytics are rarely in error.

Also consider these angles if you want to talk about fight size -
If GGG beat Cotto on PPV, he would then be a PPV fighter and Canelo-GGG would also be that much bigger. Also, even if Cotto had lost... Cotto-Canelo would still be a huge fight, its not like it goes away. Canelo tried to get Cotto in the ring for big money even after his Trout loss when many thought he was done.

So its not like Cotto-Canelo not happening right away actually diminishes the potential for big money fights at all.

 

It's simple: if the Cotto-Canelo winner doesn't contractually agree to fight Golovkin, then Cotto-Canelo will be a non-tittle, exhibition fight. This means no possible second weight division title for Canelo if he wins and IMO this means the fight as a whole is less interesting--still a big fight though, but fans may give them some backlash for ducking Golovkin. GGG's team has said they will only step aside if the winner is obligated to fight GGG and the WBC has also stated as much.

 

“Cotto has to get by on June 6 (against Daniel Geale), there are already talks of a fight with Canelo September or October,” Sulaiman said via ESPN Desportes. “We have been in communication with Golovkin. He understands the importance of a fight [like] Cotto-‘Canelo ‘that was scheduled for May and did not happen. We are trying to mediate with all parties for two big fights, Cotto with ‘Canelo’ and the winner with Golovkin.”

There is no misquote. Cotto vs. Canelo comes first. Check out the WBC's rules and you'll see that it allows them to do this. Roach wasn't misquoted either. I even pointed out the quote for you, the video is there for anyone to see. You can call people ignoramuses all you want, but that won't change reality.

Yes I do. Cotto vs. Margarito II did over 600k buys on PPV. Cotto vs. Canelo is a bigger fight and is a good bet to do between 800k and 900k. Cotto vs Martinez did around 300K buys. Golovkin has a similar profile as Martinez, except that Martinez had at least been on PPV before.

Probably not. Doing a half million buys is no easy feat. Golovkin does not have a large built in audience and there is no track record of many people in America paying to watch him fight on PPV. Again, he has a similar profile to Martinez and his fight with Cotto did nowhere near 500K buys.

Neither Cotto or Golovkin are Mexican. They would reap very little money from Mexican TV.

 

I agree it's still huge, but a little less huge than it could be. Promoting the second weight division potential for Canelo and GGG waiting in the wings would make it even bigger, but that would require some b@lls on the part of Cotto-Canelo.

 

I guess you mistook "are trying to mediate" with a fast ruling. They are not the same.

In reality, K2 will probably come to a step-aside arrangement but you cannot use that to justify a position that states that GGG is not the mandatory. For the time being, he still is. The fact that the WBC is trying to find an amicable resolution for all parties does not change this fact, nor justify your statements.

Lots of the other things you cited aren't very accurate.

Your biggest mistake though is stating GGG and Martinez have similar profile, which is not the case at all. Martinez never even filled MSG Theatre let alone graduated from it, and being B-side on a PPV means nothing in itself when it was never followed on. Was a Argentine homecoming amidst long periods of inactivity due to injury before Cotto.

Also FYI, the industry uses ticket sales as the biggest barometer of PPV viability. GGG obviously does not do the type of gate Cotto or Canelo do, but is still head and shoulders above most fighters in that dept and far ahead of anything Martinez did in the States.