Cotto-Canelo is the biggest fight to be made in boxing, GGG can wait!

I cant believe you consider fighting the best / mando in a particular division "jumping through hoops".

You aren't really making any sense though. Pray tell how I both want Geale to beat Cotto (which I do ) and Cotto-GGG to happen? That makes zero sense.

Obviously Cotto not being competitive is just my opinion at this point, it is certainly his prerogative to prove me and everyone else wrong. I do in fact want Geale to beat Cotto, it's a good outcome that gets Cotto out of a division he is not competitive in without actually damaging him.

Geale winning doesnt kill Cotto-Canelo either. It just becomes a 154 pound fight instead of a 156lb pound. :conf

 

I love the sport and I love to see good fights. Cotto is not hurting any hard working up and comers.

Your logic is as flawed as your knowledge of the history as well as the human mind. There is no schedule in boxing. It's always been a sport where guys can pick who they fight. It's always been a sport where guys gravitate towards the fights that make the most sense. And lets's just use some common sense, if you're going after the biggest money fights, then you are going after the fights the fans want to see.

If Cotto's mando was so no name that stood no chance against him, and Cotto bypassed that fight to take on someone like Canelo or Golovkin, you would not be saying the things you are saying now.

That's nice that you feel that way, but guys just don't drop titles because some guy on the internet wants him to.

This is where we differ, all you care about is Golovkin. This nonsense about wanting what's best for the sport is just that, nonsense. You don't care about guys coming up the ranks and getting their shot, you care about your guy getting his shot. And if Golovkin did get his shot, and were a top draw, he would make the same decisions that every other top draw makes. If Golovkin were the champ and his mando was just some guy and someone like Mayweather or Canelo were trying to fight him, do you honestly believe that Golovkin would tell those guys no so that he could fight his mando? No he would not. He wouldn't do that, because that makes no sense. It makes no sense for Cotto to fight Golovkin next if the Canelo fight is available. He can always fight Golovkin afterwards, should he beat Canelo.

Try for a second and try to understand that Golovkin is not some poor, hungry fighter waiting desperately for his shot. He's a world champion and he has a deal with HBO. Orgs usually don't even make other champions mandos. They did it for Golovkin because the WBC seems to now want to do their part to make the biggest fights possible in boxing. Unfortunately for Golovkin, Cotto vs. Canelo is a bigger fight than Cotto vs. Golovkin. Golovkin is going to have to just wait his turn. If he doesn't want to do that, then the champ at 168 has experessed interest in fighting him. He can always go that route.

 

You assume that all i care about is golovkin , but its not true and far from it.
you say he needs to wait his turn , which can be years , if Cotto wins , sit on his ass , waits for may and then sell it to Mayweather you will be OK with it as well right ? again , those mega superstars can fight whoever they want but leave the title behind , its just depressing to see them holding to it as hostage , in weight class that everyone knows they shouldnt be in.
GGG fights in this division for YEARS , same as other MWs , so he did earn his shot in the ring , but whatever , i wont convince you that what Cotto does is wrong and hurts the sport , you go ahead and have a nice day sir.

 

It doesn't sound like it.

Cotto is not getting a fight with Mayweather. And if he did, I would not begrudge him. Golovkin would turn down Cotto for Mayweather in a heartbeat.

Golovkin already has a belt. And how is Cotto holding the belt hostage? He just beat the recognized champ in his last fight. He's fighting a former champ this fight, and he's looking to fight another top fighter in Canelo in his next fight. If he was taking on a bunch of scrubs, then you would have a point. Golovkin didn't even go through the proper channels to be the mando. The WBC did their own thing and installed him as the mando in order to try to force an eventual fight between Cotto and Golovkin. Since you care about more than Golovkin, then are you upset that fighters who actually went through the proper channels to be the WBC mando got passed over so that Golovkin could get the spot? If you're all about up and comers getting screwed over, then this move by the WBC should upset you.

How is Cotto hurting the sport? Cotto vs. Canelo is a big fight. Lots of people want to see it. How is giving the fans what they want hurting the sport?

 

Cotto-Canelo is a bigger fight, Canelo is the better opponent, & whoever wins is more meaningful than a GGG fight. In Canelo last 5 fights he went 4(2)-1 3/5 were top 3 in the division and all Champions.

GGG has never fought a current or title holder ever. People can hang on to this Mando thing but more often then not thoses Mandos are bad unworthy fighters.

GGG isn't going to ever be MW Champ not because of ducking but because he'll lose to Canelo.

 

Is that why Oscar doesn't want to make this fight for another 20 years?

 

What do you men pray tell how you want Cotto three G to happen. You literally just said you wanted Cotto three G to happen in that post that you quoted when you clearly spoke for everyone in saying what they wanted Cotto to do in choice "a" or "b" one of them was "fight GGG" So I guess you're saying you're only about that other choice which is for him to drop the belt? So Cotto doesn't drop the belt because he is trying to set up for a bigger fight and you see something wrong with that.

Aren't you one of those that admits Cotto Canelo is a big fight without the belt regardless so when we see him trying to keep it, does it not then lend much creedence to Buck's idea that he does in fact eventually want to fight three G? Is three G not a far bigger threat than Canelo, so in a boxing business sense, would it not be more sensible to fight Canelo first, a guy in which you have a much higher probability of beating then if that works out in your favor your stock is now much higher, and then you go onto fighting three G. Is this not a good path for Cotto, boxing, and the fans when there is the potential for two mega fights??

Let me guess, you'll come back with if he loses to three G he can still fight Canelo. That may be true but obviously fighting Canelo first is an obvious better, safer bet, that leaves him with a much higher probability to make the most money and is in fact still a great path for the boxing business and the fans. This is where you don't make sense, you refuse to acknowledge the path Cotto is taking is the right one for himself, and is still a good one for the business and fans, instead, you just keep childishly repeating what you want with seemingly little ability to reason, that doesn't make sense. Cotto Canelo will happen first and I'm accepting of that because I can see how it makes sense, I suggest you do the same. Call me crazy but I'm pretty sure all this "ducking" has sent three G stock much higher than it was, so in a sense, it's not a bad for him either, he gets to keep dispatching "bums" for good pay while waiting for his inevitable shot at the belt, three G is happy as hell for a reason, maybe you should figure out what it is.

 

Dude, its pretty simple. I want "Champs" to take the tough fights and act like champs in defending their belts and proving they should still be the champ. Yeah, if Cotto keeps belt he should fight GGG. No, I don't particularly care about that match-up in particular. A really really simple concept that is not hard to understand and really shouldn't need any more elaboration.

Again, if he wants to try and prove the world wrong and beat GGG that's his prerogative - heck he might even pull it off somehow.

As for the rest of your post... honestly you are going on and on and on about nothing. Trying to say I "don't acknowledge Cotto is taking best path for himself"??? HUH??? WTF are you even on about?

Its obvious Cotto is taking the "best path for himself" I just DGAF, the sport of boxing should not revolve around the self interest of a handful of Divas. The Yankees bring in boatloads of cash in MLB, does that mean they should get to play whoever they want in the World Series each year? Get real.

Unlike some fans, I really don't care about how much money a fighter makes. I don't go "oohhh, he makes so much money - if I am a fan, its almost like I am also making that money". Obviously when discussing which fights are likely or not likely to be made, and how risk vs reward stacks up for a certain fight thenmoney comes up as a topic - but I honestly don't get how some people fanboy over it.

 

Oscar didn't want to make Canelo-Trout or Lara either but unlike most fighters Canelo forced them to make the fight.

Canelo has sparred with GGG most accounts say he gave as good as he took, and Alvarez himself has said he has no problem fighting GGG after Cotto.

The thing people don't seem to realize is even though GGG is over hyped right now Canelo vs Cotto is a bigger fight monetarily and legacy wise.

Also Canelo is more skilled than GGG both have attributes that can play into the others hands Alvarez has more tools in the shed though.

 

Biggest in boxing, PERIOD, buck? :think

I'd think either rematching Mayweather is bigger...or Klitschko vs. Povetkin II...Froch vs. Golovkin...maybe a couple others.

 

GGG could care less about Cotto. All he wants is the WBC middleweight belt.

I don't understand why Cotto wants to hold on to the middleweight belt anyway, considering he only wants to fight at catch weights. I can guarantee you he will fight Geale, then Canelo, then hold on to the belt for a year before finally vacating it. Why you ask? Because he is first class bonafide *****.

There is no reason for him to hold up another boxer's career. He should vacate the belt now and go fight at 157, 154 or what ever else weight he wants to, cause it doesn't seem like he wants to fight at 160 again.