Cotto/Clottey and you.

Vlad probably is a very good ring general; the facts would back him up there I would say. I just always think he looks like a ****-scared school kid every time someone throws a punch back at him, seems to lose his cool completely. I prefer Chagaev, mainly because he is working at a physical disadvantage against the bigger HW's around. I think Chagaev works better under pressure as well; Skelton isn't top-notch by any means, but he put pressure on Chagaev early doors and Ruslan never looked uncomfortable.

I take your point though.

 

i just dont see Chageav controlling the range, he is an excellant judge of range but he has to get through Wladimirs jab to get to use it and that is a big ask. Well im being harsh he will get to use his distance judging by judging how far away he is from Wlad when the jab lands.

As for the tempo i agree i cant see him controlling the tempo for 12 rounds as Wlad is very very hard to controll the tempo against he really slows down a fight

i think it will be a good fight though intreseting maybe not a barnstormer but an intriguing taciacal affir

 

Wlad does seem to panic when attacked but we havent seen it in a while so maybe he is over it. And as he controlls the range maybe he wont be in danger of too many shots coming his way. Also i have heard Wlad actually suffers panic attacks when he is attacked suddenly like the Sanders fight but i dont think Chageav is the type of fighter to cuse them though

Chageav works better under pressure but does Wlad really pressure a fight i think he is more a counter puncher hell stand in the middle of the ring jabbing all night or hell spend it backing up all night but not going forward

 

Wlad is impossible to bait in as he does hardly ever actually pressure and i really dont see him falling into Chageavs traps as Manny will have it worked out not to do that and Wlad will follow his orders to the tee.

Wlad has to controll the fight with his jab as you say. As he dosent cope well under pressure but i see no reason why he cant actually let Chageav come forward at him. As Chageav is a very small Heavyweight and will have to come well in Klitschkos reach to land his own shots so he will be a prime target for an uppercut which would be damaging and maybe stop Chageav being so keen to come inside. However i think chageavs best bet is to get inside and stay inside and work away in range as Wlad is not an inside fighter and then he can really use his height to an advantage. I dont see his in and out style working here

 

I'm not disputing that Vlad is the favourite in this one.

I just think that Chagaev is more of a thinking man's fighter, whereas Vlad uses his physical advantages to the max.....but in an intelligent way, if that makes sense. Sorry, the beers are starting to affect me.

 

it makes sense ina weird way

Chageav thinks better in terms of being a fighter

whereas

Wladimir thinks better in terms of an athlete

im not even drinking and im not making sense

 

Chags problem is that while he's waiting for "the right" time, Wlad is winning the rounds with his jab and he's quite happy doing that for 12 rounds if needs be.

 

That sums it up nicely:good

 

:good

seconded

tht old fogy does speak sense sometime between wetting his bed sheets

 

chag and klit are ****ing big welters eh?

 

Its this 24 hour weigh in rule, the fighters are rehydrating like crazy these days!!!

 

:rofl

t-45mins now lads

another welter-belter

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