Cotto Def Martinez = Bellew Def Haye

Yes, both were not even shadows of their former selves, they were corpses, the difference is Cotto didn't brag about it like despicable Bellew.

 

Bellew also dragged up skinny Cleverly to cruiser for the rematch (Cleverly a fool to agree). Cotto drained Geale to I think 157 for the 160 fight and KO'd a dry-brained ghost (Geale a fool to agree).

Then snake Bellew tried to take advantage of fat-rusty Fury too and unfortunately that didn't happen because Bellew would've been beaten into pulp and possibly slept like Battleship. Cotto ducked Golovkin while pretending Golovkin wasn't anything special and unfortunately that didn't happen because Golovkin would have broken his orbital bones.

 

False equivalency !

Bellew made Haye's body break down , Sergio's body was already long broken down , that's the difference.

Roach and Cotto watched the Murray fight saw that Martinez was done for , thats the only reason they took the fight.

Bellew didn't have the same assurance that Haye was nearing the end and neither did anybody which is why everybody predicted him to get savagely destroyed in the opening rounds .

Bellew's win deserves credit for the tactics and galmeplan he used to take Haye into the later rounds. Haye was still dangerous and still had power , Sergio couldn't even punch no more and was lucky to survive the opening round.
Cotto's win is meangingless.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/david-haye-vs-tony-bellew-prediction-thread.582309/

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I think that's a pretty fair comparison

 

Bad aint it..Fellas warped !

 

I disagree. Martinez was literally had two shot knees and could barely put any weight on either leg. Martinez was barely able to walk to the ring. A better comparison for the Cotto-Martinez fight would be Tyson-Spinks, since both Martinez and Spinks both had two shot knees and showed up for a paycheck after a year of inactivity.

Haye was an older fighter that still tried to fight like he was 10 years younger than he was. Haye also believed the hype that Bellew would be an easy opponent and showed no respect for Bellew's power, which was a big mistake. Haye's legs were older, but he didn't have two shot knees like Martinez or Spinks. Haye was also competitive with Bellew, but didn't expect Bellew to be as quick on his feet or to have hands as quick as he did. If Haye would've approached the 1st fight differently he could've won, but was set on performing like the Haymaker of old instead of being content with a decision win.

 

This. Bellew was slipping a lot of Haye's punches, which would've connected on many of the bigger and slower heavyweights. The Haye that fought Bellew would've still knocked out guys like Breazeale, Hammer, or Duhaupas, since these guys are slow and don't move like Bellew does. Even Miller would've most like struggled with Haye if he would've been eating the flush shots that Haye was throwing at Bellew, but Haye kept missing due to Bellew's head movement. Bellew's combinations and counters also need to be given credit.

 

Was defeating too much work to type?

 

In case of Bellew, he himself acknowledges it.
And to his credit, he was the underdog in both instances. He proved himself right on both occasions. He said Haye was done and proved it.
He deserves some credit.