Cotto didnt have to fight Margarito

Cotto gets all my respect for taking a fight with the toughest in his division. Cotto knew what he was getting himself into, he wanted to prove he was the best. He fought nice in this fight, he did nothing wrong but face an opponent who could take his best and still apply immense pressure.

I do hope to see Cotto comes back, but he should keep away from any immediate rematch any time soon. there is still plenty of good fights out there to get his confidence back.

 

I beg to differ brother, Cotto fought the best I have seen him perform. Any other 147 pounder would of been toast. granted he would of landed the same shots on them.

 

It was all in the plan for Cotto for a long time to fight Margo. Arum had been setting that fight up for at least 4 years.

Cotto vs Margo is a fight that Arum wanted for awhile, which is the reason that he wouldnt let either man fight Floyd, it was the reason that he did everything in his power to stop Margo from fighting Williams, and the reason that he wouldnt let Margo fight Wright.

I know that people will say "Oh he offered Floyd 8 mil to fight Margo" The the truth is that was an offer that came only after Arum knew that Floyd was talking with GBP about a fight with Oscar, it wasnt a real offer...Arum even admitted that it was in reaction to the talks between Oscar and Floyd...I know that I sound like a broken record but if Margo wanted to fight Floyd he would have took the offer after Judah lost.

It was Arum that wanted this fight, he thought that it would be Cotto's coming out party, he thought that it would have been a fight that would have lifted Cotto over Floyd. Which is the reason that he tried so hard to make people buy into the whole Floyd feared Margo thing.

No Cotto didnt have to fight Margo, in fact NO fighter has to fight any other fighter. However there come a point when you paint yourself into a corner and Arum painted Cotto into a corner and Margo was closing in. It just didnt have the outcome that Arum wanted:good

 

Arum wanted to feed Floyd to Margarito and offered him initially 5 million long before DLH came into the picture. Floyd said no way and Arum then came back with another offer for 8 million. Floyd still balked. And then he paid to get out of his contract and get a match with DLH.

Margarito was only seen as a gimmie in the eyes of the morons on this forum and on others. Anyone in the know, anyone who was a serious observer of the sport, knew this was a very difficult fight to pick. Arum put these two together because he came to the realization that he had a win-win on his hands. It didn't matter who won. The rivalry would catapult the winner into stardom. Margarito is now known to many more people than he was previously. Close to 500,000 households viewed that fight and the buzz is still around the net. Even in places I'd not think possible.

Cotto is far from done. He is still a guy who has the potential to be very marketable and has a good assortment of welters to choose from to make his way back into the winning circle. Arum already knew all of this and so it didn't matter. With the styles that Cotto and Margarito present, it is a guarantee that either guy would rebound from this loss. And it'd give Arum one star and one promising star in exchange for two promising stars.

Cotto could have gone the Mayweather route but he didn't. He could have waited on DLH and tried to make that fight while fighting the modern day Mitchell's and Bruseles characters. He didn't. He manned up and took the hard road and he deserves respect for that. He has the character some others lack and he will be better off for that in the long run.

 

I totally disagree. Top Rank is going to make alot of money down in Mexico with Margarito. They have exclusive contracts with the networks down there that were put in place before this event like chess pieces on a board. The Mexican American fanbase has gone Margarito insane. Expect to see Antonio Margarito on PPV from here on out. Arum and Top Rank knew that Cotto was vulnerable to damage all along, and they knew the roof would cave in at some point. Top Rank determined that it would be best if Cotto fell to their man Margarito if he was going to fall. Better that than someone controlled by other interests. Just look at the current situation, Margarito is worth about 3 or 4 times what he was before the fight. Cotto is still a lucrative franchise. Top Rank knows exactly what they're doing. Now they have two Welterweight franchise players. Tens of millions will be made.

If you think Top Ranked didn't want that or lucked into the situation you're crazy.

 

That would be idea, except for the fact that Margo and Top Rank almost split due to what Margo management team felt was a lowball offer in the first try to make the Cotto fight. And your right someone was being served up, but it wasnt Cotto, it was Margo..If you for one second thought that Arum and Top rank thought/wanted margo to win then explain why it wasnt Margo that was being pushed as Oscar date in dec??? It was Cotto all the way. Even with the win over Cotto, Margo still isnt going to be a PPV star, he can fight on PPV all he likes that dont mean that anyone will buy it...In his only PPV as the headliner it sold 19,000 buys. Hell when 60 year old Duran fought 50 year old Camahco they did 25,000.

And just alittle bit about PPV....No Mexican fighter outside of Oscar has been a PPV star. Not Morelas, not MAB, none and it wont start with Margo. Margo would need another major player to do well in PPV sells.

No I doubt this is the way that Arum wanted or hoped it would have turned out.

And one more thing...Cotto fought Judah, Mosley, Quintana, Torres. Margo fought Gomez, Johnson, Cintron whom he had already beat, Williams but only after the fight with Cotto fell apart and he was forced into the fight....Now who was being protected:good

 

Why would Margarito get served up by Top Rank? To totally crash his market value entirely? That makes no sense. He's not worth anything after a loss to Cotto. Why would Top Rank cash Margarito in? To waste all the effort and energy they put into him? Cotto is still just as valuable after a loss to Margarito. As a piece of stock Cotto is undamaged, and Top Rank knew that Cotto's loyal fanbase wasn't going to go anywhere in defeat. You have to see the logic here. Connect the dots. This is chess. This is Top Rank.

Understand something, a fight with De La Hoya in December wasn't on the table when Cotto/Margarito was signed. You're trying to put the cart before the horse. Speaking of trying to put the cart before the horse - you're talking about Margarito's PPV numbers before he became a star and hero within his comsumer fanbase, that is the whole point of him needing to get this opportunity, and get this win. Now Margarito is a viable piece of stock. Margarito/Cotto did 500,000 PPV off of the strength of the Mexican/Mexican American fanbase. Cotto/Mosley did 350,000, that's all anyone needs to know. Bob Arum knew exactly what he was doing.

 

It's pretty obvious that the right fights could turn Margarito into a big name. Mexico is a very fight orientated fanbase and Margarito is a classic Mexican brawler. Not just any brawler but a very special one that can do what becomes legend. He has all those essential attributes that make Mexico and Mexicans proud. Indomitable spirit, granite chin, bruiser mentality and a real family man. He's iconic in that sense and this is no doubt one of Arum's best investments. He could have turned his back on Margarito back when Margarito was going through the motions. He didn't. And that is for a reason. Arum is a very smart man.

Remember how this fight was supposed to be lucky to break 300k PPV buys? You guys remember saying that, right? Well. You were wrong on the PPV numbers. Don't you think it's about time you start to reconsider the potential market for a guy like this?

 

:good correct on every point.:deal

 

You are exactly right:good

And it goes to show you that "mythical" matchups means ****.....STYLES makes fights, doesn't matter if A defeated B and B defeated C and so forth.

When you're not fantasizing over DLH, you're actually quite knowledgeable.:good