Cotto:Do no doubt, I will adjust to any style that Margarito will bring

Well sorry for triying to stole your bich my bad.

 

Very true because there's only on style when you hit them low.

 

i f you notice cotto put his hand way up but is very vulnerable with a upercut, someting that Margo have, and cotto is a very pasive fighter that look to put his punches, Margarito is a trow all at you brawler, so cotto need to adjust and be more offensive and don't think too much. that era for me the diference but still i got cotto to win.

 

You know Amb_D you are a sensible poster from what I've seen.

However, you are stating that Margo's pressure will whilt Cotto. I believe that you are understimating Cottos mental prowess. His mental ability is what kept him in the fight when he was under fire. His mental ability is also connected with his recuperating abilities.

I don't think that Cotto will whilt under Margo's pressure.

You say that boxing is easy when the man across the ring respects you trust me that Cotto will get Margos respect before the fight is over.

Margo struggled against Clottey and in the beginning of the Lujan fight Lujan was getting to Margo. So I dont think Cotto's physical stature or Margarito's will play that big a role in the fight.

 

is it just me or is it everytime you read about this fight you just get goosebumps......i need a time machine, cause i cant wait for this one, it really does have FOTY written all over it

 

Thanks for the compliment. I feel the same way about some of you guys. At least the ones who acknowledge that this will be a difficult fight. I have no respect for those clowns who say Margarito is a nobody and a pushover.

Alot of this eventually boils down to two things that me and Ziggy came to terms with the other day. It would be foolish for Cotto to try and box or move away from Margarito. Reason being Margarito's reach, his workrate and his building morale as the rounds go by.

The best shot Cotto has is to try and do what Lujan did early to Margarito. Move inside and try and get off first. All while dodging those uppercuts and Margarito's workrate. But he is going to have to do this consistently because Margarito is very hard to discourage. He is still looking at the hardest fight of his career.

I admire Cotto's courage. When I wrote that I was not saying he'd break down mentally, but physically. Neither of these guys are going to quit in the ring. They will both go out on thier shield if they have to. That means we are in store for a classic.

So if Cotto does wilt under the pressure it won't be that he quits. It will be that his body simply cannot take anymore punishment.

Cotto may get Margarito's respect early but that is a daunting task. 170lb Daniel Santos rocked Margarito early on but still failed to get Margarito's respect. So did Clottey. I just don't see Margarito stopping even if Cotto lands a money punch.

Remember that Clottey and Lujan were beaten men. They may have started off well but starting off well doesn't mean you'll win the mid/late rounds. Cotto has to have a good gameplan and he has to stick to it for 12 rounds. And throughout that he is going to have to be mindful of how many free shots he gives Margarito. His body will not hold up to the sort of damage Williams and Santos stood up to. Those are bigger men and they can take a much bigger punch.

 

Margarito doesn't really fight tall. I know Cotto will box from the outside when he wants to and believe me when I tell you that a lot of what you are talking about as Margo's attributes such as reach and workrate will be nullified with what Cotto brings.

Clottey could not sustain his attack because of an injured hand. Whether Clottey has stamina issues as some posters here have indicated I am not sure.

Clottey lost the fight in a decision and he wasn't really beaten up. Lujan kept on coming even with his ear hanging off of his head so I am really not swayed by those fights in the context that you are putting them under.

Margo beat up Kermit but Kermit is just so mentaly week that he could never endure what margo brought to the table. So his victories against Kermit were won on the mental level more so than the physical level.

Golden Johnson has lost to pretty much every named fighter he has faced including gate keepers like Cosme Rivera. He was KO by Vivian Harris in 3.

In the Williams fight he lost by pitti pats. So he learned and from the fight and started faster in the Golden fight. I didn't feel he started fast in the Kermit fight.

I understand that you don't see how Santos couldn't get Margo's respect even though he was bigger. Funny thing is that some people made that argument that Cotto would not be able to hurt Gomez because Gomez fought at MW and held his own. Gomez is not Margo and vice versa but things are not clear cut as you make them out to be.

I just looking at Margos record and seeing the people that he KO and the ones that he went the distance I don't think that he will KO Cotto. I don't think that he can outbox Cotto either. So however you slice it up I don't see Miguel losing this one.

 

its hard to see Miguel lose when you stack up what each guy brings to the fight, But Miguel hasnt been in there yet with a big welter weight with this kind of pressure and power and work rate, so it will be interesting to see how this fight plays out.

if Margarito is simply too strong for Miguel it will show early and if that does happen to be the case in this fight Miguel will lose, so really it depends on what happens in the first two or three rounds.

Miguel does have the better set of skills of the two, but he is going to have to fight a perfect fight, in a sense he will have to box smart and slug smart, he wont be able to win just on boxing he doesnt have the size or the reach to really sit behind a jab and let Tony come to him.
he is going to have to use timing as Tony comes to him, and on the inside he is going to have to work the body and get out of harms way quick.

Tonys best shot at winning this is if either Miguel stays inside a little to long he will catch him with something big, or if Miguel goes on retreat to the ropes Tony does his best work there, but also Miguel in his fight with Mosley did get a bit tired did get hurt to the body, if either happens against Tony its lights out.

its truely a pick em fight, and people who say Tony dont have a shot, well they are just wishful thinking IMO, Tony has a big shot, so does Miguel.

what worries me the most about this fight, you have every fan every major expert looking forward to this fight being an all out war, what are the odds of us being drug into a boring fight? what if both men respect each others abilitys too much:think

 

As much as i respect Margarito as a fighter, I just dont think his "supposed" physical strength advantage is enough to beat a complete fighter like Cotto.

 

I honestly think that is whats needed to beat Cotto, I dont think pitty pat boxing is going to do it, Someone is going to have to be strong enough to push cotto back, hurt Cotto if Cotto makes one mistake, while having a very high work rate.
I really think this is the key to beating Cotto weather Margarito is the guy to do it or not has yet to be seen, and maybe he is not the man to bully Cotto in there, it might be Paul Williams who also is a big man but either way I really dont think you can box with Miguel Cotto and expect to win he has done very well against boxer types.

 

Great job, HM. Thank you.